Theos-Talk Archives (May 2008 Message tt00004)

Internet is a leap in technology. It is like moving from land line phone to
wireless phone. There is no going back. Also, Internet has become the
backbone of today's communcation. All I can say is wait and re-visit after
three years.

mkr

On 5/1/08, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
>
>
> MKR wrote:
> "We had Internet now for several years, especially in the West. To what
> extent has it been used to help transparency of policy and multi-way
> communication? Why has it not happened so far? Is anyone expecting orders
> from beyond Himalayas telling them what to do or are they too scared they
> will lose the control they have?"
>
> "Internet is here to stay. This may be the last election where members
> would
> continue to be in the dark. "
>
> M. Sufilight says:
> I would careful with the view, that the "Internet is here to stay".
>
> The teachings of theosophy as well as Bhagavad Gita requires that
> you control your sense and organs - ", yet pondering with his heart upon
> objects of sense, is called a false pietist of bewildered soul. But he who
> having subdued all his passions performeth with his active faculties all the
> duties of life, unconcerned as to their result, is to be esteemed. Do thou
> perform the proper actions: action is superior to inaction. The journey of
> thy mortal frame cannot be accomplished by inaction. All actions performed
> other than as sacrifice unto God make the actor bound by action. Abandon,
> then, O son of Kunti, all selfish motives, and in action perform thy duty
> for him alone. "
> (Bhagavad Gita, III - by W. Q. Judge)
>
> " Sequestered should he sit,
> Steadfastly meditating, solitary,
> His thoughts controlled, his passions laid away,
> Quit of belongings. In a fair, still spot
> Having his fixed abode, -- not too much raised,
> Nor yet too low, -- let him abide, his goods
> A cloth, a deerskin, and the Kusa-grass.
> There, setting hard his mind upon The One,
> Restraining heart and senses, silent, calm,
> Let him accomplish Yoga, and achieve
> Pureness of soul, holding immovable
> Body and neck and head, his gaze absorbed
> Upon his nose-end, rapt from all around,
> Tranquil in spirit, free of fear, intent
> Upon his Brahmacharya vow, devout,
> Musing on Me, lost in the thought of Me.
> That Yogin, so devoted, so controlled,
> Comes to the peace beyond, -- My peace, the peace
> Of high Nirvana!"
> (THE SONG CELESTIAL - Translated by Sir Edwin Arnold)
> http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/ctg/bhaggita.htm
>
> M. Sufilight
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MKR
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:42 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: TS Elections - Formerly Three Reasons.....
>
> Well said.
>
> Transparency based on high moral and ethical principles/policies combined
> with two/multi-way communication is the key to success of any spiritual
> entity.
>
> Without them, application of any modern management techniques which work
> in
> a commercial environment will not work in a spiritual organization where
> one
> is totally free to choose. Anyone who is expecting some "reward" now or in
> the other world from the organization or its leadership, can easily be
> silenced and made to toe the official policy line no matter what. That
> seems
> to be what is happening too long.
>
> Organizers are happy to keep the followers in the dark with the motto
> "trust
> me" and don't ask inconvenient questions.
>
> We had Internet now for several years, especially in the West. To what
> extent has it been used to help transparency of policy and multi-way
> communication? Why has it not happened so far? Is anyone expecting orders
> from beyond Himalayas telling them what to do or are they too scared they
> will lose the control they have?
>
> All these and many related questions should be raised and discussed and it
> cannot be done by people who cannot openly speak their minds since there
> will be repercussions from the organizations, which in some cases would
> affect even their livelihood.
>
> Internet is here to stay. This may be the last election where members
> would
> continue to be in the dark. By the time next election is up, every member
> will have access to Internet and no one will be able to hide anything that
> is going on.
>
> mkr
>
> On 4/30/08, Augoeides-222@comcast.net <Augoeides-222%40comcast.net> <
> Augoeides-222@comcast.net <Augoeides-222%40comcast.net>> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> > Hmmmm, COMMUNICATION is the primary, most fundamental purpose of the
> > Absolute and the Creation which came into existance to facilitate that
> > PURPOSE and GOAL. The Internet is representative of the EXPANSION of
> > COMMUNICATION of MANKIND! Any Suppression of occurance of a more IDEAL
> > COMMUNICATION ENVIRONMENT could be viewed in a most negative light.The
> Ideal
> > of Freedom is benched upon Free Expression and Communication.
> > Regards,
> > John
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "Govert Schuller" <schuller@alpheus.org <schuller%40alpheus.org><schuller%
> 40alpheus.org>>
> > Dear MKR,
> >
> > Just for the record and to dispel some of your hunches.
> >
> > Chris doesn't live or work at Olcott. He is in his last months of being
> on
> > the TSA Board, having served the maximum 2 terms. I'm sure he'll be
> back.
> >
> > I encouraged him to start this new blog after the relative succes of his
> > first one "Theosphist: Blogs from the Path" at
> > http://theosophist.wordpress.com/. Parameters are still being worked
> out.
> >
> > The underlying motivation comes from a certain exposure to modern
> > organizational theory and practice and the realization that the TS could
> > potentialy benefit from studying and applying the new ideas and
> practices
> > that have been developed.
> >
> > It is a great experiment to facilitate FTS to participate in a
> reflection
> > on
> > the TS's own institutional structure, which means its policy-making
> > process,
> > its organizational culture, its governance model and concrete policy
> > proposals.
> >
> > He is therefore taking a certain risk and should be recommended for that
> > and
> > his actions should not be interpreted with a priori suspicions as you
> do.
> > Time and experience will tell, not projections based on past experiences
> > and
> > frustration.
> >
> > Govert
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "MKR" <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com> <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> 40yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Three Reasons to prefer Algeo over Burnier
> >
> > > Govert:
> > >
> > > There are some built-in problems with a site moderated by Chris.
> > >
> > > He is an officer of TSA and probably he works there as an employee as
> > > well(someone with info can clarify this).
> > >
> > > So there is going to be a lot of subtle direct and indirect pressure
> put
> > on
> > > him to moderate on posts which may not be in line with official policy
> > or
> > > official political interests. We will never know because moderation
> > > (censoring) takes place prior to postings.
> > >
> > > Also we have not seen anyone from the organization or closely
> associated
> > > with it, participating in this or other independent forums. Even we
> have
> > > not seen Chris even though he has been around Olcott for some years.
> Why
> > are
> > > they shy or is there an unwritten boycott? (Any clairvoyants, who can
> > > help!!!!)
> > >
> > > So if anyone wants to read unvarnished opinions and critical
> > information,
> > > this maillist is the place.
> > >
> > > Also timing of the opening of the forum makes me wonder if the
> > > organizational leaders subtly encouraged him to open the forum so that
> > info
> > > favorable to the organizational leaders or their policies have a place
> > to
> > > display them to Internet users. This is especially so because of the
> > > continued silence of the Algeo nominators which includes the President
> > of
> > > TSA, even after the Radha's doctors' certificates were sent to them.
> > >
> > >
> > > mkr
> > > ---------------
> > > Govert W. Schuller wrote:
> > >
> > > P.S.:
> > >
> > > To Ramadoss 4/28: The forum started by Chris Richardson is
> > semi-moderated.
> > > Posting is restricted to 'authors,' but comments are unrestricted, and
> > it's
> > > mostly in the comments that the real meat is to be found. Chris is a
> > > Theosophist who thinks for himself and his agenda is the improvement
> of
> > the
> > > organizational culture and governance model at the TSA.
> > >
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