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>>>The Council of Nicaea 325 AD<<<

I am seeking to keep this article a bit short. So I am seeking to forward somne issues sourrounding politics today, the Gospels and the theosophical views about them related to Catholic and Christian ones. The Council of Nicaea was historically significant because it was the first effort to attain consensus in the church through an assembly representing all of Christendom. "It was the first occasion for the development of technical Christology." Further, "Constantine in convoking and presiding over the council signaled a measure of imperial control over the church." (Richard Kieckhefer (1989). "Papacy".) 

A special prominence was also attached to this council because the persecution of Christians had just ended with the February 313 Edict of Milan by Emperors Constantine and Licinius. 

At the first Council of Nicaea in 325 CE, Constantine oversaw the creation of the Nicene Creed, which is still repeated in churches to this day. Christians who refused to assent to this creed were banished from the Empire or otherwise silenced, though the church continued to engage in political in-fighting thinly disguised as theological debate. After the 'Christian' Constantine returned home from Nicaea he had his wife suffocated and his son murdered. He deliberately remained unbaptized until his deathbed so that he could continue his atrocities and still receive forgiveness of sins and a guaranteed place in heaven by being baptized at the last moment. 

There are therefore a lot of historical evidence pointing to the fact that the meeting in Nicea in year 325 after the beginning of the modern era was a political meeting, and that the four gopsels chosen at the meeting was a political decision more than a honest historical one. To just simply brush this view away with, another opinion, because one have the hope that this view is not true, is of course possible. But the historical facts sticks like glue. We also know, that the study of history can be hampered by political considerations and evidence colored by sources with an ax to grind. 

As it was said in the movie The Da Vinci Code, We know for instance that the question of Jesus divinity was voted about as if the majority gathered at this particular meeting had the right and proper level of wisdom to judge about such a thing. This was how the early Church leaders payed their respect to the very Origins of Life and Visdom. All this was done with a militant Emperor named Constantine as a leading chair. Voting about Jesus divinity just shows how silly one can get, and it makes me wonder if they one day get the idea to vote about whether the Pope (and of course not the "theosophical leaders") should be given the same respect. This is a Catholic Church claiming to be build on a solid Rock. As theosophists, we can only disagree, because we Know, and not because we have a official belief baptised in ignorance like a Christian who seem to deny visdom its rightful place in peoples lives. 


>>>Emperor Constantine and his seal Labarum a military standard<<<

Today we have that Emperor Constantine used a seal, which he had a vision about it according to Eusebius of Caesarea, (lived 263-339 ad., - often referred to as the father of Church history because of his work in recording the history of the early Christian church, especially Chronicle and Ecclesiastical History.) The vision he had in a dream was told about by Eusebius' Historia ecclesiae ("Church History"). The emperor saw the vision in Gaul on his way to Rome, long before the battle with Maxentius: the phrase as he gives it was "Eν Tουtω, Nικα!, "In this, be victorious!". 

"In a later hagiographic memoir of the emperor that Eusebius wrote after Constantine's death ("On the Life of Constantine," ca 337-339), the miraculous appearance came when the rival armies met at the Milvian Bridge. In this later version, the emperor had been pondering the logical question of misfortunes that befall armies that invoke the help of many different gods, and decided to seek divine aid in the forthcoming battle from the One God. At noon Constantine saw a cross of light imposed over the sun. Attached to it, in Greek characters, was the saying "Eν Tουtω, Nικα!". 

Not only Constantine, but the whole army saw the miracle. That night Christ appeared to the emperor in a dream and told him to make a replica of the sign he had seen in the sky, which would be a sure defense in battle. Thus the element of the public miracle is logically reinforced by the account of a private dream of an explanatory nature. 
(Look here in Wikipedia: The Labarum was a military standard which displayed the first two Greek letters of the word Christ) 

When one contemplates what has been going on in the various churches until today, since this symbol called Labarum was given in use. It is known, that it was used at even pagan tombs before emperor Constantine used it. The Labarum was a military standard, and have through the centuries since emperor Constantine made it part of Christianity been used as a symbol in the various Catholic Churches and other Christian Churches - even as a symbol on their altars. A symbol of Militant Christianity. 

And saying that the Christian's have ended militant activity like the Catholics are trying to tell people officially, they with the other hand in secret accepts the Jesuit Order and the Opus Dei and its secret political and economical activities, and in part Freemasonry. All this have been well documented in at least the last hundred or two hundred years. Groups of freemasons exist, and not all of them are only of a Protestant nature, there are also Catholic ones, who in secret have political and even militant agendas, like "Just War". Some of its members are said to be working inside the Vatican. Saying that the Christian religion is in no way heavily involved with political issues and acitivities is a false claim, and some of the Churches leaders of Christianity knows about it, and therfore they keep silent about, because their aim is universal despotism, and the rest of reason among thousands of fanatics. 

Let me quote the so-called beloved Pope and his greedy political cravings from the following recent article in one of the many newspapers who wrote about it either on paper or on the Internet: 
  Pope says society to fail without Christian conscience 
  "VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict, speaking as the European Union marked its 50th anniversary without a mention of its religious heritage, said a society that lacks a Christian conscience will end up failing. The Pope's comments came a day after he lambasted the European Union for not mentioning God and Europe's Christian roots in declarations marking its founding. "A society in which the Christian conscience does not live anymore loses direction, does not know anymore where to go, ends up empty and bankrupt," the Pope told parish elders on Sunday. Such a conscience was needed to promote justice and a sense of responsibility among one another, he said. The remarks came as the European Union celebrated its 50th birthday in a Berlin ceremony that included unveiling a broad, aspirational "Berlin Declaration" that left out mention of religion or the continent's Christian roots. But EU leaders like German Chancellor Angela Merkel -- who unveiled Sunday's declaration -- as well as Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi, reaffirmed their support for its inclusion in a new EU treaty they want adopted by 2009." 
  ....... 
  "'What the result will be, I can't say,' Merkel, the daughter of a Protestant pastor, told a news conference. 'I am realistic and that means not so optimistic.' The Pope made his displeasure over the matter clear in a strongly worded speech on Saturday, saying excluding values that helped forge its very soul meant Europe was committing a form of apostasy -- a total desertion of one's religion -- and doubting its own identity. The Pope, like his predecessor John Paul, often calls for including God and Christianity in the European Constitution. Plans to put a reference to Europe's Christian roots in a previous EU constitutional treaty were blocked by French President Jacques Chirac." 
  (VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict, speaking as the European Union marked its 50th anniversary, Sunday, March 25th, 2007) 


Christianity has nothing to do with visdom and compassionte wise magical activites. The Christian conscience, which the Pope craves, is nothing but a worship of a doctrine based on falseness, deceit and fanatism. 

We theosophists say, that there are wise magical activities and there are bad and stupid magical activities, especially those who keep people away from learning about developing wisdom, developing the compassion of the Heart, and when appropiate wise magical skills. 

Jesus was said to use magical skills, to heal and similar. Despite of this it seems that Jesus words: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"; (Matthew 7:12) is only something we humans aught to keep, while Jesus (and God) who is compassionate are somehow strangely being disallowed by the Christian Church leaders to teach us his own magical capabilities. And when we talk about that despotism and double-talk is attached to the leadership of the Christian Churches it is being rejected by its leaders. 



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M. Sufilight

H. P. Blavatsky said:
"The Society founded to remedy the glaring evils of Christianity, to shun 
bigotry and intolerance, cant and superstition and to cultivate real 
universal love extending even to the dumb brute".
(The Collected Writings of H. P. Blavatsky, vol. 7, p.246)

Master KH wrote in a Mahatma Letter:
For the opposition represents enormous vested interests, and they have 
enthusiastic help from the Dugpas -- in Bhootan and the Vatican!
(Here is all of Mahtama Letter, No. 55. Dugpas are the same as selfish 
Magicians.)

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