Theos-Talk Archives (March 2008 Message tt00197)

Dear Jayananda

Here is the quote to which you refer:

"A crisis, in a certain sense, is upon us now, 
and must be met. I might say two crises ? one, 
the Society's, the other for Tibet. For, I may 
tell you in confidence, that Russia is gradually 
massing her forces for a future invasion of that 
country under the pretext of a Chinese war. If 
she does not succeed it will be due to us; and 
herein, at least we will deserve your gratitude. 
You see then, that we have weightier matters than 
small societies to think about; yet, the T.S. must 
not be neglected." ML 5; chronology of George Linton 
and Virginia Hanson.

Regards
Nigel


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Jayananda Hiranandani 
<professorjaya@...> wrote:
>
> In the "Mahatma Letters", it is stated somewhere that then (in the 
19th Century), Russia was trying to take over Tibet; and it was that 
They (Masters) were trying to prevent it.
>    
>   What has happened the since about 1950 that we are seeing the 
tragedy of Tibet at the hands of Chinese. Can any one throw light on 
this as to what were the plans of the Masters, and how and why have 
they changed?
>    
>   A psychic, Ann Ree Colton, -  not from the Theosophical circles 
as we know - said that there has been a change in the occult 
structure in Tibet. The polarity has shifted away from the Himalayas. 
>    
>   This will somewhat explain it. Also as a result of this, and/or 
otherwise there has been deforestation in the Himalayan region, at 
least on the southern side.  As a result of deforestation, the top 
soil has been washed away in the rains. With the trees, the moisture 
was retained by them and the top soil. This has now lead to extensive 
floods in India and Bangladesh. This flood damage is not being 
addressed by India in a far-sighted, 
>   resolute manner through prevention, even though every dollar 
spent on prevention saves forty dollars. The reason that one can 
speculate that in the flood relief work, a lot of corruption is there.
>    
>    The recent problems in Nepal can be somewhat explained from this 
view, as well as the Sino-Indian border dispute.
>    
>   Jayananda H. Hiranandani
> 
> Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@...> wrote:
>           To all readers
> 
> To all readers
> 
> My views are:
> 
> Now, what is going on?
> Are China facing the Law of Karma?
> 
> Tibet gripped by violent clashes
> a.. Jonathan Watts in Beijing 
> b.. guardian.co.uk, 
> c.. Friday March 14 2008
> d.. Article history
> About this article
> Close 
> This article was first published on guardian.co.uk on Friday March 
14 2008. It was last updated at 14:56 on March 14 2008.
> 
> Tibetans throw stones at Chinese army vehicles in Lhasa as violent 
protests against Chinese rule break out. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images
> 
> The Tibetan capital of Lhasa was on the brink of chaos today as the 
fiercest anti-government protests in almost 20 years erupted into 
violence between Chinese security forces and protesters wielding iron 
bars.
> 
> A radio station reported at least two people had been killed in the 
rioting. The US-funded Radio Free Asia quoted two witnesses as saying 
two bodies were seen lying on the ground in the Barkor area, a 
shopping district where protests had been particularly fierce.
> 
> Armed police used water cannons and teargas on the crowds, and 
witnesses say security vehicles were set on fire and Chinese drivers 
were carried off with bloodied faces after being beaten by a mob of 
young Tibetans.
> 
> The US embassy in Beijing said its citizens in Lhasa had reported 
gunshots being fired in the city. The embassy emailed an advisory 
note to Americans warning them to stay away from the city, now in its 
fifth day of anti-Chinese protests.
> 
> The Dalai Lama, the spiritual leader of Tibet's Buddhists, urged 
China not to use violence to quell the protests, which he called "a 
manifestation of the deep-rooted resentment of the Tibetan people 
under the present governance".
> 
> "I therefore appeal to the Chinese leadership to stop using force 
and address the long-simmering resentment of the Tibetan people 
through dialogue with the Tibetan people," he said in a statement.
> 
> The EU and the White House also issued statements urging China to 
show restraint.
> 
> Coming just months before the start of the 2008 Olympics, the 
protests against Beijing rule threaten to overshadow preparations for 
the games.
> 
> A resident told the Guardian that he heard an explosion and around 
10 shots every minute at one point, but thought it was teargas rather 
than bullets being fired because he saw people running from plumes of 
smoke and covering their mouths.
> 
> "I am too afraid to go out," the source, who asked to remain 
anonymous, said. "It is chaos out there."
> 
> The source, who is from the Chinese Han ethnic group, said he saw 
Tibetans attack two fire engines.
> 
> "I saw Tibetans throwing stones at the vehicles. They dragged 
drivers from vehicles, took off their uniforms and helmets, then beat 
them.
> 
> "The chanting mob beat up around five or six drivers who had to be 
carried away with blood on their faces ... then they put a motorbike 
under the fire engine and set fire to it so the engine was burned."
> 
> The report was difficult to confirm. The Chinese government has yet 
to make a statement, and communications with the tightly-controlled 
Himalayan region are difficult even during calm periods.
> 
> A blogger who writes from Lhasa under the name Beifang described 
the violence on his blog.
> 
> "Police cars and fire engines were outside smashed and burned. A 
lot of Tibetans ran towards Dazhao [Jokhang] temple. I heard 
gunshots. Five army police vehicles drove that way. A large number of 
armed police followed. A few people with blood on their faces were 
taken away."
> 
> Tibetan support groups overseas said they were hearing reports of a 
fire and protests near the Tromsikhang market near the Jokhang temple 
in central Lhasa.
> 
> According to the Free Tibet campaign, there were also protests 
today in the Labrang monastery in Gansu province, where 200 monks led 
demonstrations on the streets. The group said this showed the 
protests were gathering momentum.
> 
> The AFP news agency said one of its reporters saw monks leading a 
crowd of around 300 people near the monastery, one of the most 
important in Tibetan Buddhism.
> 
> Since the first protest by monks on Monday, thousands of armed 
police have locked down monasteries in and around Lhasa. Witnesses 
said today's protesters were mostly lay Tibetans.
> 
> China's Xinhua news agency reported that shops had been set on fire 
in Lhasa but gave no other details. 
> 
> The International Campaign for Tibet said two monks at the Sera 
monastery had stabbed themselves and others had gone on hunger strike.
> 
> About a dozen monks were reportedly detained on Monday, when 
several hundred from the Sera and Drepung monasteries took to the 
streets to mark the 49th anniversary of a failed uprising against 
Beijing. Similar protests took place in the Ganden and Lutsang 
monasteries in Qinghai (known in Tibetan as Amdo) where hundreds of 
monks reportedly chanted slogans calling for their exiled leader, the 
Dalai Lama, to return.
> 
> The upsurge in activism comes amid growing frustration with the 
lack of progress in talks between representatives of the Dalai Lama 
and Beijing.
> 
> M. Sufilight
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