Theos-Talk Archives (March 2008 Message tt00141)

  Hello Christina,

  I only see Venus as 4th Ray. I will try to read the passage you cited.
  Fred

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker"
<christinaleestemaker@...> wrote:
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> Venus  is esoteric and it is working with the signs of the Zodiak 
> sometimes in the 4 ray.But on its own it is working on the fifth, the 
> ray of knowledge and Science.
> Here you can find some reasons why Venus(esoteric) is working with 
> Mercurius(exoteric) together in Gemini in the 4 th ray and the 5 th. 
> To be read in Esoteric Astrology AAB.page 354, which book I have.
> Christina
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> In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "fsgonzales1" <fredericosg@> wrote:
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> > Christina,
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> >  Would not Venus stand for the 3rd or 4th Rays?
> >  I really do not see Venus standing for 5th Ray, although Mars 
> stands
> >  for the 6th Ray in my view as well.
> >  The 6th Ray is very mistreated. Were it not for its idealism, the
> > planet would have collapsed. But it is a quite dynamic energy with
> > propensity to struggle. 6th Ray line is supposed to enlighten in a 
> way
> > that devotion and love are predominant. Devotion itself is 
> expressive
> > of the 6th Ray so we can see how powerful this ray energy is. It is
> > very dynamic and not very peaceful.I have the feeling that I am a 
> 3rd
> > or 6th Ray Soul. I am definately not 2nd Ray, though I have had more
> > contact with this Ray´s energy of balanced Wisdom and Love than with
> > all others. I have worked with a group quite discrete and we used to
> > do some works we had a member who would channel some things and 
> energy
> > of some higher beings for the group. It was interesting. I never
> > thought that such a thing as the Violet Flame was really so powerful
> > and soft energy. 7th Ray is very different from 6th, in this aspect.
> >  BTW, I have read AAB´s books. At least the ones about the Rays when
> > they were still available for free online reading. Now I plan to 
> buy a
> > new book on the 7 Rays which condenses info from the AAB books and
> > also other sources.
> >   In the Path the siddhi are inevitable for a number of reasons we 
> are
> > told in theos literature. So it is better to know well the theory 
> when
> > the practice time comes because we are told it is not an easy step, 
> in
> > 'the voice of the silence' we are told, 
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> > "The name of Hall the second is the Hall of Learning.* In it thy 
> Soul
> > will find the blossoms of life, but under every flower a serpent 
> coiled."
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> >   There may be joy in the Astral World, and goodness. But in every
> > siddhi, in every flower one may puck from the garden, with it comes
> > along a coiled naja serpent, what has also been called by those who
> > know, 'the gift and the curse'. There is nothing without a
> > compensation and the hall of learning is said to be the most 
> elusive,
> > yet interesting realm.
> > 
> >   Love,
> >   Fred
> > 
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker"
> > <christinaleestemaker@> wrote:
> > >
> > >  yes  and Mars is standing for the sixth ray, which is stanidng 
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> > > idealism, devotion and struggle and mostly works on damaging 
> > > fatalism.beattle,stuggle and war and evolution.
> > > 
> > > While venus stands for the 5 th ray , Manas, from intellect to 
> > > intuition.That is why woman have better intuition and man more 
> ratio.
> > > Only the ones have balanced (or harmony and equilibrium) in their 
> > > male/female structure can enjoy the intuition or buddhic state.
> > > Christina
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> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Women are from Venus - Men from Mars.  You are quite right 
> Christina
> > > >   Cass
> > > > 
> > > > christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> wrote:
> > > >           Hi,
> > > > I think Cass made a joke to Frank his ratio
> > > > Buddhi is not female, but electromagnetic.
> > > > christina
> > > > 
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, yes if you see Buddhi the receptor of the Atmic
> > > > > plane.
> > > > > However all shells around the Atmic are receptive to
> > > > > the parts higher, so all are female then?
> > > > > The mind receives the light of Buddhi and the
> > > > > impressions of Kama, so the mind is a double female?
> > > > > To me a female is just like a male, they'r both human
> > > > > and the difference they make is only physical,
> > > > > mayavic.
> > > > > With the sexual revolution it became clear there is no
> > > > > difference, we are all human, no matter what favorite
> > > > > (sexual)appetite.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- Cass Silva <silva_cass@> wrote:
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> > > > > > Good point Martin, Buddhi is female energy!
> > > > > > Cass
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> > > > > > Martin <Mvandertak@> wrote:
> > > > > > Dear Frank,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- Frank Reitemeyer <dzyan@> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > As soon as ordinary women become enlightened women
> > > > > > > and men become
> > > > > > > enlightened men the Theosophical Movement will be
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the save side and the
> > > > > > > Masters have reason to give more information.
> > > > > > > Since then this information is only "to the few"
> > > > > > (I
> > > > > > > am not included, too).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You ARE included, since you use your intuition AND
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > facts. Everybody who uses his intuition for the
> > > > > > right
> > > > > > cause is on the level where Masters work.
> > > > > > Intuition is a wonderfull thing, it makes you listen
> > > > > > to yourself many times to what your own mouth sais.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > have that experience and most of the things I learn
> > > > > > come from my own mouth :-)
> > > > > > 
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