Theos-Talk Archives (March 2008 Message tt00083)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
>
> The other point Nigel is that those four followers (his harem), 
killed themselves because of a blind belief in another man's bs.
>    
>   Cass

Dear Cass

Thank you for this significant additional point.

It is perhaps not the self-killing of the physical 
body alone which is of greatest concern in this 
context, but the mindset of the individual that 
enables this to occur.

It seems some in this forum are unaware of the 
insidious dangers of the leader/follower mindset 
for the everyday human being, its perpetuators, and 
the support and/or accommodation of its and their 
perpetuation.

These dangers are exacerbated where the "leader" 
clearly and demonstrably lies and fabricates 
his/her teachings.

The body may suffer for as long as it takes to 
terminate, however the followers' skandhas of 
mind suffering can last for aeonic periods, 
throughout many incarnations.

This is especially so where this perpetuation is 
supported and encouraged in the name of "freedom."

Genuine freedom involves letting go of the desire 
or emotional need to follow. However our kama/manasic 
ego, desirous of putative certainty and 
predictability in the desperate hope for safety and 
security, resists this "letting go" in every 
conceivable manner, so often subtly and even 
unconsciously to the heavily programmed and 
indoctrinated individual.

It really is a "death struggle" and as mentioned in 
an earlier posting, "the stakes are human souls."

Kind regards
Nigel    

 






> 
> nhcareyta <nhcareyta@...> wrote:
>           Dear Richard
> 
> Thank you for your reponse.
> 
> You write, "...life is but a dream."
> 
> Please tell that to the young boys who were abused by the Bishop 
and 
> who continue to be by like minded people in similar positions.
> 
> And also please tell that to those who trusted him to be 
> representing Madame Blavatsky's Theosophy as he claimed, a 
spiritual 
> philosophy which claims no religion higher than truth.
> 
> Moreover, consider the energies being perpetuated by lies as 
opposed 
> to simple truths.
> 
> And consider those who would brush these considerations "under the 
> table" as being insignificant as you and others appear to be doing.
> 
> Such have done certain churches and invading forces with their 
> obvious results of suffering and injustice.
> 
> If we don't stand for truth in whatever form, then we are 
supporting 
> lies with their subsequent effects on many levels of consciousness 
> in many areas of life.
> 
> So, with respect, please continue to row your boat gently, before 
> the aforementioned effects begin rocking it out of its lullaby 
state.
> 
> Regards
> Nigel 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Semock" <semockr@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "nhcareyta" <nhcareyta@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "plcoles1" <plcoles1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Interesting doco.
> > > > Perry
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?
> docid=8575648331106173390&hl=en
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Dear Perry
> > > 
> > > Thank you for this most interesting documentary
> > > of yet another fraud and liar duping his 
> > > followers. 
> > > I remember reading his work The Teachings of Don 
> > > Juan in the early seventies.
> > > It reminds me of one Cyril Hoskin a k a T Lobsang 
> > > Rampa, another of like kind, who many of us young 
> > > seekers absorbed, in our gullible innocence, as a 
> > > truthful and honest person. 
> > > 
> > > What is quite extraordinary to me is that, despite 
> > > unequivocal evidence of their fraud and lies, 
> > > their deceptions and hypocrisy and their utterly 
> > > discredited fantasies, they still have followers 
> > > who believe in them and much of what they say. 
> > > 
> > > What is even more extraordinary to me is that 
> > > among so-called theosophical truth-seekers Bishop 
> > > C W Leadbeater is still accepted as a person of 
> > > credibility and even adoration. 
> > > Others accept him and his fantasies simply because 
> > > some of his writings happen to copy what other 
> > > genuine truth-tellers have said or written before 
> > > him.
> > > 
> > > At least Mr Castaneda only claimed to have been 
> > > taught by a Yaqui shaman. 
> > > 
> > > And Mr Hoskin only claimed to be a Tibetan Lama. 
> > > 
> > > Bishop Leadbeater claimed to be in contact with the 
> > > "Supreme Director of evolution on this globe", 
> > > perhaps his most supreme fantasy, amongst many others.
> > > 
> > > From my perspective, humanity's gullibility and 
> > > misguided forms of acceptance, often influenced by 
> > > powerful occult energies, know no bounds and ensures 
> > > we are to remain the mere playthings of the Brothers 
> > > of the Shadow for some time to come.
> > > 
> > > Kind regards
> > > Nigel
> > 
> > Cmon Nigel, loosen up and row row row your boat gently down the 
> > stream, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily for life is but a 
dream.
> >
> 
> 
> 
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