Theos-Talk Archives (March 2008 Message tt00000)

 Hello Christina and all. I also think that higher dimension beings,
some of who we call Masters, do influence some people, even to the
point of changing their forms in some cases.
 The changing of Matter itself by the power of Thought and Love is an
interesting thing to see. Devotion and ultimately total surrender
should render one´s being to the Master´s, so completely that the two
are merged and the Master becomes manifest through the disciple. This
is a well-known principle in Tibetan Buddhism and Deities are used.
For example, Tsong Ka Pa is considered to be an emanation of Manjushri
because he worked with that particular Bodhisattva and through
devotion and practice acquired Manjushri´s wisdom.
 Love, 
 Frederico.
  
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker"
<christinaleestemaker@...> wrote:
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> Higher dimension souls can influence ours on the lower dimensions.
> So they can work out all forms on earth, where necessary.
> Than the question can be, why they don't stop war?
> Because we have to overcome by ourself that behavior.
> We have no free will, but free choises, as mentioned before in 
> another message and I think there is the link we can learn from.
> Christina
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "fsgonzales1" <fredericosg@> 
> wrote:
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> >  At last, a light has shone... as to creating our realities, Cass, I
> > really do not create my reality. I did not create this computer and 
> I
> > am not responsible for its appearance. If it starts to resemble me 
> of
> > Master Morya or any other, there´s either something in me or in the
> > computer, or in both of us. Of course the computer is an absurd
> > example but this applies to people.
> >  Our ideals of perfection are really what matters to me regarding 
> the
> > Masters, they are examples of perfection. Their sketches and 
> pictures
> > are symbollic.
> >  Anyone who wishes to go deeper into studying deity Yoga might find 
> a
> > very interesting similarity between the Masters of Theosophy and the
> > Yidams of Buddhism.
> >  Both are empty, they do not have inherent existence. Still, 
> trusting
> > them, putting your love and faith and wishing to embrace their 
> aspects
> > can and does change a person, as in Tibetan Buddhism deity practice.
> > The practitioner becomes enlightened by becoming his chosen deity. 
> The
> > whole process is complicated but it is similar to the Masters in 
> some
> > ways. Although I think there is a difference also, and the Masters 
> are
> > what is described in Buddhism as 'Gods of the realm of Form´
> > (Rupadhatu), while we are in the realm of desire (kamadhatu) and 
> there
> > are also gods in the Formless realm (arupadhatu).
> >   Adelaise your point is brilliant.
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> > Another point, and more to the point here, is the fact that Masters
> > of the
> > Great White Lodge have evolved beyond the necessity of incarnating 
> in
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> > a physical form. They can take on a body if need be, and have done 
> so
> > within the history of theosophy, but there is no reason that the
> > appearance
> > of, for instance, the Master M, would be the same each time He
> > assumed
> > human form. The pictures we have of the Masters are symbolic in
> > nature,
> > meant to represent the ideal of perfection for humanity.
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> > If we see some resonance of perfection in our friend, perhaps we are
> > seeing
> > the "real" person. The divine soul can shine forth, if we have eyes
> > to see,
> > enhancing the familiar form and giving it a larger than life
> > effulgence.
> > 
> > Adelasie
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> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Cass, Friends,
> > > 
> > > We might keep in mind that when we say that someone "looks like" 
> > > someone else, what we are saying is that when we look at the 
> person, 
> > > we see a resemblance. Another person might not see the 
> resemblance at 
> > > all. 
> > > 
> > > > Nevertheless, this phenomenon of people looking like Masters and
> > > > especially changing their ways of behaviour, has to have some 
> deeper
> > > > link. My personal opinion is that certain Apprentices concede 
> their
> > > > bodies to the Master´s influence so much that the Master 
> actually
> > > > takes over that body, so to speak, although the individual
> > > > consciousness of that body is only widened, and does not suffer 
> in any
> > > > way.
> > > 
> > > Another point, and more to the point here, is the fact that 
> Masters 
> > > of the 
> > > Great White Lodge have evolved beyond the necessity of 
> incarnating in 
> > > 
> > > a physical form. They can take on a body if need be, and have 
> done so
> > >  within the history of theosophy, but there is no reason that the 
> > > appearance 
> > > of, for instance, the Master M, would be the same each time He 
> > > assumed 
> > > human form. The pictures we have of the Masters are symbolic in 
> > > nature, 
> > > meant to represent the ideal of perfection for humanity. 
> > > 
> > > If we see some resonance of perfection in our friend, perhaps we 
> are 
> > > seeing 
> > > the "real" person. The divine soul can shine forth, if we have 
> eyes 
> > > to see, 
> > > enhancing the familiar form and giving it a larger than life 
> > > effulgence. 
> > > 
> > > Adelasie
> > >
> >
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