Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00416)

"That Secret Path leads the Arhan to mental woe 
unspeakable; woe for the living Dead, and 
helpless pity for the men of Karmic sorrow, 
the fruit of Karma Sages dare not still."
Voice of the Silence; The Two Paths 


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker" 
<christinaleestemaker@...> wrote:
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> Higher dimension souls can influence ours on the lower dimensions.
> So they can work out all forms on earth, where necessary.
> Than the question can be, why they don't stop war?
> Because we have to overcome by ourself that behavior.
> We have no free will, but free choises, as mentioned before in 
> another message and I think there is the link we can learn from.
> Christina
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "fsgonzales1" <fredericosg@> 
> wrote:
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> >  At last, a light has shone... as to creating our realities, 
Cass, I
> > really do not create my reality. I did not create this computer 
and 
> I
> > am not responsible for its appearance. If it starts to resemble 
me 
> of
> > Master Morya or any other, there´s either something in me or in 
the
> > computer, or in both of us. Of course the computer is an absurd
> > example but this applies to people.
> >  Our ideals of perfection are really what matters to me regarding 
> the
> > Masters, they are examples of perfection. Their sketches and 
> pictures
> > are symbollic.
> >  Anyone who wishes to go deeper into studying deity Yoga might 
find 
> a
> > very interesting similarity between the Masters of Theosophy and 
the
> > Yidams of Buddhism.
> >  Both are empty, they do not have inherent existence. Still, 
> trusting
> > them, putting your love and faith and wishing to embrace their 
> aspects
> > can and does change a person, as in Tibetan Buddhism deity 
practice.
> > The practitioner becomes enlightened by becoming his chosen 
deity. 
> The
> > whole process is complicated but it is similar to the Masters in 
> some
> > ways. Although I think there is a difference also, and the 
Masters 
> are
> > what is described in Buddhism as 'Gods of the realm of Form´
> > (Rupadhatu), while we are in the realm of desire (kamadhatu) and 
> there
> > are also gods in the Formless realm (arupadhatu).
> >   Adelaise your point is brilliant.
> > 
> > Another point, and more to the point here, is the fact that 
Masters
> > of the
> > Great White Lodge have evolved beyond the necessity of 
incarnating 
> in
> > 
> > a physical form. They can take on a body if need be, and have 
done 
> so
> > within the history of theosophy, but there is no reason that the
> > appearance
> > of, for instance, the Master M, would be the same each time He
> > assumed
> > human form. The pictures we have of the Masters are symbolic in
> > nature,
> > meant to represent the ideal of perfection for humanity.
> > 
> > If we see some resonance of perfection in our friend, perhaps we 
are
> > seeing
> > the "real" person. The divine soul can shine forth, if we have 
eyes
> > to see,
> > enhancing the familiar form and giving it a larger than life
> > effulgence.
> > 
> > Adelasie
> > 
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> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Cass, Friends,
> > > 
> > > We might keep in mind that when we say that someone "looks 
like" 
> > > someone else, what we are saying is that when we look at the 
> person, 
> > > we see a resemblance. Another person might not see the 
> resemblance at 
> > > all. 
> > > 
> > > > Nevertheless, this phenomenon of people looking like Masters 
and
> > > > especially changing their ways of behaviour, has to have some 
> deeper
> > > > link. My personal opinion is that certain Apprentices concede 
> their
> > > > bodies to the Master´s influence so much that the Master 
> actually
> > > > takes over that body, so to speak, although the individual
> > > > consciousness of that body is only widened, and does not 
suffer 
> in any
> > > > way.
> > > 
> > > Another point, and more to the point here, is the fact that 
> Masters 
> > > of the 
> > > Great White Lodge have evolved beyond the necessity of 
> incarnating in 
> > > 
> > > a physical form. They can take on a body if need be, and have 
> done so
> > >  within the history of theosophy, but there is no reason that 
the 
> > > appearance 
> > > of, for instance, the Master M, would be the same each time He 
> > > assumed 
> > > human form. The pictures we have of the Masters are symbolic in 
> > > nature, 
> > > meant to represent the ideal of perfection for humanity. 
> > > 
> > > If we see some resonance of perfection in our friend, perhaps 
we 
> are 
> > > seeing 
> > > the "real" person. The divine soul can shine forth, if we have 
> eyes 
> > > to see, 
> > > enhancing the familiar form and giving it a larger than life 
> > > effulgence. 
> > > 
> > > Adelasie
> > >
> >
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