Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00364)

There are valuable lessons to be learnt from betrayal, most of the time we feel betrayed because the other person does not come up to our expectations, if we eliminate the expectation, we eliminate the betrayal.  No?  Certainly better than hanging on to those negative feelings, within us, that accompany the act.
  A wise friend once told me that if we are really seaking self development that one day we would see that it was those souls that we least admired, brought us the opportunity to learn something about ourselves, and that it is they, we should thank.!
   
  Cass
   

Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com> wrote:
          Thank you Cass...isn't it strange I get these friendly
words from you and not from them?
Imagine my understanding my far neese HPB ( my great
grandmother was her family) suffered so much as well
when dealing with people who in fact betrayed
her...but I have learned to live with the idea: if it
doesnt kill me it makes me stronger...:)
Thanks again!

--- Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello Martin
> I am pleased to hear that Theosophy touched your
> soul and brought you through your nightmare, never
> mind about the theosophists who apparently treat you
> so badly.
> Cass
> 
> Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Humble me was invited into Theosophy in
> '75, then
> worked from '76 till '80 as a volunteer in the
> European Headquarters in The Hague; then I was sent
> away with the reason I was too boisterous.
> In fact I had devoted my career to become a printer
> and work for spreading Theosophy ( I was 16 in '75).
> Things worked out the worst and those people from
> The
> Hague calling themselves my friends had just left me
> alone in my disappointments, I was taken into a
> nuthouse afterwards in 1981 but survived. If it
> wasn't
> for my real Self I would have become the worst
> adversary of the Theosophical Society after this
> period of my life, but thanks to mySelf I remained
> into the same spirit of Theosphy...
> 
> --- Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > IMO you're right Nigel concerning the information
> > age, which I wasn't thinking of at the time.
> Wasn't
> > it in 1975 that Bill Gates registered Microsoft. 
> > Cass
> > 
> > nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > Dear Cass
> > 
> > Points well made.
> > 
> > In addition have we thought much about the dawning
> 
> > of the "information age" with computers and the 
> > internet. 
> > 
> > Was this part of their "effort?"
> > 
> > On the jnana path, information leads to knowledge;
> 
> > and knowledge to awakening.
> > 
> > And what would be the need for a messiah figure
> with
> > 
> > all this information extant, other than to relieve
> > the 
> > burdensome task of thinking and doing the work for
> 
> > ourselves?
> > 
> > Kind regards
> > Nigel 
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva
> > <silva_cass@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Perhaps the problem is that Theosophists are
> > looking for a new 
> > Blavatsky. As she said, lesser messengers will
> come
> > with their 
> > contribution to spritual wakefullness. I think we
> > can see this in 
> > the West with the acceptance of eastern
> > methodolgies, e.g. yoga, 
> > reiki, tai-chi,healers, all practices contribute
> to
> > an overall 
> > awareness that we are not just the body!
> > > 
> > > Cass
> > > 
> > > Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@...>
> wrote:
> > > To all readers
> > > 
> > > My views are:
> > > 
> > > There is - one more - quote from HPB about what
> > will happen in the 
> > years after 1975.
> > > I think with an organisation awaiting his
> arrival
> > as HPB puts it in 
> > the below, - one will have to stop believeing it
> to
> > be the fact, that 
> > the number of persons involved in this are more
> than
> > a few science 
> > intellectuals:
> > > 
> > > "...that during the last quarter of every
> hundred
> > years an attempt 
> > is made by those "Masters," of whom I have spoken,
> > to help on the 
> > spiritual progress of Humanity in a marked and
> > definite way. Towards 
> > the close of each century you will invariably find
> > that an outpouring 
> > or upheaval of spirituality -- or call it
> mysticism
> > if you prefer -- 
> > has taken place. Some one or more persons have
> > appeared in the world 
> > as their agents, and a greater or less amount of
> > occult knowledge and 
> > teaching has been given out. If you care to do so,
> > you can trace 
> > these movements back, century by century, as far
> as
> > our detailed 
> > historical records extend...If the present
> attempt,
> > in the form of 
> > our Society, succeeds better than its predecessors
> > have done, then it 
> > will be in existence as an organized, living and
> > healthy body when 
> > the time 307 comes for the effort of the XXth
> > century. The general 
> > condition of men's minds and hearts will have been
> > improved and 
> > purified by the spread of its teachings,
> > > and, as I have said, their prejudices and
> dogmatic
> > illusions will 
> > have been, to some extent at least, removed. Not
> > only so, but besides 
> > a large and accessible literature ready to men's
> > hands, the next 
> > impulse will find a numerous and united body of
> > people ready to 
> > welcome the new torch-bearer of Truth. He will
> find
> > the minds of men 
> > prepared for his message, a language ready for him
> > in which to clothe 
> > the new truths he brings, an organization awaiting
> > his arrival, which 
> > will remove the merely mechanical, material
> > obstacles and 
> > difficulties from his path. Think how much one, to
> > whom such an 
> > opportunity is given, could accomplish. Measure it
> > by comparison with 
> > what the Theosophical Society actually has
> achieved
> > in the last 
> > fourteen years, without any of these advantages
> and
> > surrounded by 
> > hosts of hindrances which would not hamper the new
> > leader. Consider 
> > all this, and then tell me whether I am too
> sanguine
> > when I say that 
> > if the Theosophical Society survives and lives
> true
> > to
> > > its mission, to its original impulses through
> the
> > next hundred 
> > years? Tell me, I say, if I go too far in
> asserting
> > that earth will 
> > be a heaven in the twenty-first century in
> > comparison with what it is 
> > now! 
> > > (H. P. Blavatsky's book "Key to Theosophy", s.
> > 306-7. English 
> > edition, Italics added.)
> > > 
> > > So HPB said in the above: "Think how much one,
> to
> > whom such an 
> > opportunity is given, could accomplish. Measure it
> > by comparison with 
> > what the Theosophical Society actually has
> achieved
> > in the last 
> > fourteen years, without any of these advantages
> and
> > surrounded by 
> > hosts of hindrances which would not hamper the new
> > leader."
> > > 
> > > So I guess I will just have to disagree with you
> > about the 
> > importance of the numbers who receives the message
> > Frank. I think it 
> 
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