Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00194)

If you have been keeping up with the posts Martin, you will have read that KootHoomi stated categorically that he had an inner and an outer.  Our Ego's are the sum total of every experience in a sentient body, so therefore the more evolved the soul, the stronger the personality.  Ego has to be overcome every lifetime until one reaches the stage where it is simply a vehicle for self consciousness and practical every day existence.  It has been mastered and no longer generates karma.  I accept this on faith and on reasonableness as it makes sense.
   
  I am not sure what you mean by renouncing the joys of physical life or what you mean by calling yourself a Loser.
   
  I would imagine that one has to attain Nirvana and is not something that can be rejected prior to experiencing it. Else it seems to me you are rejecting "the idea" of Nirvana as some sort of sacrificial offering.  Maybe I am just misunderstanding your words, perhaps you will correct me if this is so.
   
  Cass

Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com> wrote:
          No doubt its there, trying to find a way to get rid of
it :-)
However I never gave it a chance to flourish but
through my mind, in ordinairy life I am a loser, one
of the few who were supposed to be lost as KH said it
somewhere in the ML when forgetting or renouncing the
joys of physical existence, to be killed by the people
who rule the material world.
As good or bad as it goes with this ego of mine, used
as a toy to progress on my Path, the more I forget
about Nirvana, since I have to state here Nirvana is
the worst illusion outthere unless all beings can
benefit its bliss. Untill that day, which seems
endlessly far away, I reject the peace of Nirvana,
since it may calm my soul, but there is too much to do
for her. Peace I find in a few moments when asleep, to
comfort just the little man which is still here.
Basking is the wrong word you use, not even my dogs
have to do it. I would use the word 'asking', not for
my own nirvanic illusion, but for nirvana without its
illusion for all...btw Cass, you up to a fight it
seems, by attacking me?

--- Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Martin,
> Your ego is alive and flourishing and is basking
> in its own nirvanic illusion.
> Cass
> 
> Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Haha, humour kills fear, fear for the
> unknown, for the
> dwellers at the trashhold, humour gets you into real
> Nirvana...although humour through selfcriticism!
> 
> Its fun to empty the sack of ego to make room for
> the
> real Ego is another interpretation.
> 
> Ph. D..fart could also be written Phart, so I bet a
> Ph. D. is a Phart Demon? 
> The story goes some Tibetan monks did kill their ego
> by living on a cemetary..the most extatic moments
> were
> when a new corpse was buried. The smell did its work
> for them like incense and burning wood does its work
> to scare elementaries off as KH states somewhere in
> the ML.
> 
> I found out myself the hard way, enlightening comes
> with killing your ego first and then talk later with
> your real Ego ( who knows all ). What a bliss to
> know
> seperation is gone when uniting your Manas with the
> light of your inside Buddha...
> 
> --- Morten Nymann Olesen
> <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Lol.
> > 
> > Yeah...The next thing might be, that someone will
> go
> > and call you a theosophical Blasphemer and
> > "excommunicate" you to another theosophical branch
> > so your infidel ideas will not take root within
> > their sacred and very precious historical
> chambers.
> > The other "theosophical" branch need, mind you,
> not
> > necessarily to be a "laughing branch" or "laughing
> > ranch" with cows, bulls and an uneducated farmer
> > couple. 
> > 
> > And perhaps they will also tell you, that you are
> a
> > Climate Change terrorist, because you fart so much
> > while smiling in your emails.
> > :-)
> > 
> > 
> > I have heard a romour about, that Ph. D.'s are
> > important theosophists than others, but I cannot
> > tell for sure, because then I would reveal to
> much.
> > What are your views?
> > 
> > 
> > M. Sufilight
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Martin 
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World What is Theosophy
> > 
> > 
> > Lol, I agree with Chuck the Heretic!
> > Most of the theosophists in our world don't even
> > know
> > they are, while the ones who claim they are, are
> > mostly arsetalkers. They like to look what we do
> > to be
> > a theosophist and instead of at least trying to do
> > it
> > themselves, they like to be on their own island in
> > their own nir-wana.
> > 
> > My 2 farts :-)
> > 
> > --- Morten Nymann Olesen
> > <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
> > 
> > > Aha!
> > > That was why you became a Heretic and a member
> > of
> > > this forum?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > M. Sufilight
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: Drpsionic@aol.com 
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World What is Theosophy
> > > 
> > > 
> > > No one knows what Theosophy is, least of all
> > > Theosophists.
> > > 
> > > Chuck the Heretic
> > > 
> > > http://www.geocities.com/c_cosimano 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pablo Sender <pasender@yahoo.com.ar>
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:34 pm
> > > Subject: Theos-World What is Theosophy
> > > 
> > > "What is Theosophy?" is one of the most
> > frequently
> > > asked
> > > questions in the theosophical milieu and, since
> > > the word
> > > `theosophy' remains without an official
> > > definition, it will
> > > always be a matter to ponder over. To answer
> > this
> > > question, I will quote
> > > H. P. Blavatsky's words, because the
> > theosophical
> > > movement as a
> > > whole accepts her as a common source of
> > > inspiration. Nevertheless, the
> > > same concepts may be found in many other
> > > theosophical writers.
> > > 
> > > The term theosophia apparently was first
> > recorded
> > > during the 3rd century
> > > of our era by Porphyry, a well-known Alexandrian
> > > philosopher who
> > > belonged to the Neo-Platonic school. It is
> > > composed of two Greek words:
> > > theos, meaning `god' or `divine'; and sophia, or
> > > `wisdom', which may also be translated as the
> > > `wisdom of the
> > > gods', `wisdom in things divine', or `divine
> > > wisdom'. The term flourished among
> > Neo-Platonists
> > > down to the 6th c.
> > > and was also used by certain Christians. In the
> > > course of time, several
> > > people and movements spiritually inclined also
> > > adopted the denomination
> > > of `theosophers' or `theosophists' for
> > themselves.
> > > That
> > > was the case of Meister Eckhart in the 14th c.,
> > a
> > > group of Renaissance
> > > philosophers such as Paracelsus in the 16th c.,
> > > Robert Fludd, Thomas
> > > Vaughan, and Jacob Boehme in the 17th; and
> > Emanuel
> > > Swedenborg and Karl
> > > von Eckartshausen in the 18th c., among others.
> > > Finally, the
> > > theosophical movement reappeared in the 19th c.
> > > with the founding of the
> > > Theosophical Society in 1875 by H. P. Blavatsky,
> > > H. S. Olcott, and
> > > others. Through it, certain eternal truths were
> > > presented again in a
> > > suitable fashion to modern times and a rich
> > > literature has been produced
> > > by Theosophical Society members in its more than
> > > 130 years of activity.
> > > 
> > > But then the question arises: Is theosophy what
> > > the founders of the TS
> > > taught? Is it what every leader of the TS wrote?
> > > What is the
> > > relationship between the teachings given through
> > > the TS and those older
> > > ones also known as theosophy? Since people with
> > > different religious and
> > > philosophical backgrounds used the same word
> > > `theosophist' to
> > > call themselves, the term `theosophy' must
> > > represent something
> > > that unites them beyond concepts and beliefs.
> > > 
> > > Theosophia as a state of consciousness
> > > 
> > > In her article `What is Theosophy?' HPB attempts
> > > an explanation
> > > of the term `theosophy', describing who a
> 
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