Re: Fw: Theos-World Distortions and diversions?
Feb 16, 2008 03:08 PM
by Martin
Wait here please, where did I say The Great White
Brotherhood is unbrotherly? I said according a view of
thoughts it SOUNDED unbrotherhoodly, but its good to
have you sort this out :-)
You are absolutely right about the Pratyeka Buddha's,
look at what happened to Saruman the Great in the
story of the Lord of the Rings!
The only way to be of help with the rest is to be
tested first, few left after the tests, but 1000s of
years a few is also many :-)
Only the best are fit, this sounds Darwinistic, hehe.
The GWB is also only connected in the mind, therefore
they can never be traced as an organisation...
--- Morten Nymann Olesen
<global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
> To all readers
>
> My views are:
>
>
> So now we have a Theosophist(?) calling the FGreat
> White Lodge unbrotherly?
> What is next?
>
> The Great Withe Lodge is subject to the Law of Karma
> like all in the universe.
> Saying that the Great Withe Lodge is unbrotherly
> will not make you more wise than its members are.
> I will recommend, that you think about this.
>
> The Great Withe Lodge is no ordinary group or
> organisation working together. They are on a level
> of consciousness far beyond ordinary human
> comprehension. They are organised through real
> Altruism.
> And Altruism is so often misunderstood by beginner
> theosophists as being emotional arousements.
> Saying that those who are superior to you in
> compassion are not compassionate will not make their
> compassion go away. (Of course some of you might be
> way beyond the level of the Dyhan Chohan's, but I
> will have to confirm the truth about this first.)
>
>
> The Great Withe Lodge is of course not without
> faults.
> But saying, if you do that, - that you can walk in
> the PathlessLand of J. Krishnamurti without running
> into the members of the Great White Lodge is the
> same as endorsing the Pratyeka Buddhist pathless
> path. And H. P. Blavatsky never agreed upon
> following this path, because it is not a real
> spiritual path. That is also my own view. Sooner or
> later one will have to learn the lesson of working
> together with other people. The Law of Karma is a
> real issue.
>
> The Pratyeka Buddhist's do not understand the
> difference between good and evil, on various levels
> of consciousness, and they have a tendency to work
> like the uncompassionate Dugpa's.
>
> Being truely compassionate is a huge lesson in life.
>
>
>
> But, these are just my views.
>
>
>
> M. Sufilight
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Martin
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Theos-World Distortions and
> diversions?
>
>
> It has value no for people who are to be tested by
> their dugpa's, only after they went through the
> testing they have value. So before you even get a
> glimpse of what the White Brotherhood is about,
> you
> are already being tested. They only support their
> own
> kind, which sounds not very brotherhoodlylike
> btw...
>
> --- Morten Nymann Olesen
> <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
>
> >
> > So the Great White Lodge has no value?
> >
> >
> >
> > M. Sufilight
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: MKR
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Theos-World Distortions and
> > diversions?
> >
> >
> > It is a free world and each can come to theri
> own
> > conclusion and stay with
> > it.
> >
> > I am not a scholar; just an ordinary student. No
> > organization can lead
> > anyone for self development. All they can do is
> do
> > the mechanical stuff. The
> > real work, I think, the individual has to do it
> > himself/herself.
> >
> > mkr
> >
> > On 2/16/08, Morten Nymann Olesen
> > <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
> > >
> > > I feel absolutely free to disagree with you.
> > "Organisations" as a word
> > > covers a lot of content in its definition.
> > Saying that the great white lodge
> > > cannot help and benefit humanity, and that
> only
> > J. Krishnamurti can and will
> > > is just about the most wrong conclusion one
> can
> > get into ones head!
> > >
> > > Do you really think, that Master Morya, H. P.
> > Blavatsky, Damodar
> > > Mavalankar are no more?
> > > Really. How far are you prepared to go to put
> > the Old Lady and Master
> > > Morya down the toilet?
> > >
> > > But, of course I must be misunderstanding you,
> > because you sound like an
> > > intelligent scholar.
> > >
> > > M. Sufilight
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: MKR
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 4:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Fw: Theos-World Distortions and
> > diversions?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > I have said this many times.
> > > One of the lessons that one learns from K's
> > disbandment of organizations
> > > is
> > > the need to set ourselves free to inquire as
> > organizations cannot take us
> > > to
> > > enlightenment.
> > >
> > > mkr
> > >
> > > On 2/16/08, Shel Steijl <shelley@sai.co.za
> > <shelley%40sai.co.za>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well said, MKR.
> > > > Shel
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: MKR
> > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> >
>
>
<theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 3:15 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Distortions and
> > diversions?
> > > >
> > > > Any open minded person need to keep certain
> > facts in mind.
> > > >
> > > > Organizations are great when it comes to
> > mechanical tasks such as
> > > > publishing
> > > > and re-publishing and arranging for meetings
> > and gatherings etc. Once it
> > > > goes beyond that, they cannot lead one to
> > self-discovery (which you have
> > > > to
> > > > do it yourself unfettered
> > > > by any preconceived ideas or notions). Once
> > there is an organization,
> > > > there is the bureaucracy and the need for
> > group conformity. Once you
> > > > are in the group for a long time, it is very
> > difficult to think
> > > > outside the box. The other complicating fact
> > is that many
> > > > organizations own a lot of very valuable
> real
> > estate
> > > > with the ownership comes other headaches and
> > problems that may interfere
> > > > with the distribution of teachings.
> > Spirituality and property and money
> > > do
> > > > not mix well.
>
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