Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00073)

Friends,

What a tangle we humans have created with our age-long determination 
to control nature. There are people who say I should let my horses go 
free when actually that would be pretty cruel, since they have always 
relied on humans to feed and protect them and there is noplace for 
them to go in this area. Occultism pleads for a natural life, but it 
is quite a challenge for the modern occultist to discover what is 
natural in our times. Perhaps if we begin with a devotion to basic 
principles, unity of all life, compassion, altruism, harmlessness, 
and apply them to each individual situation, we can find our way. We 
cannot solve all the problems singlehandedly, but we can do a lot by 
being an example to others of a more mindful and heartfelt approach 
to life in all its facets. We can also find a way to understand the 
situation that confronts us without being judgemental of others. 
After all, whatever situation or condition we must endure was created 
by ourselves. Ultimately we are responsible for that which we now 
condemn, so we are the only ones who can undo the harm.

Adelasie

On 10 Feb 2008 at 5:57, MKR wrote:

> In our office building, there are couple of family counsellors and they are
> busy. We see them busy. This indicates a constant battle goes on every day
> with many many. So the wars are just an external manifestation.
> 
> On the issue of killing animals for food, unfortunately all the dirty
> cruelty it out of sight so out of mind. I wonder how many of us who eat meat
> are capable of ourselves killing the animals we eat? Not many. First time
> you kill an animal with your own hands and see the cruelty and suffering,
> you may change your ideas about the animals sacrificing themselves for our
> benefit. Even a visit to a slaughterhouse will change your mind. In the past
> high schools would take the students to tour slaughterhouses. No more. Many
> of the students never again ate meat after they saw with their own eyes.
> 
> mkr
> 
> On 2/10/08, nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > War does not begin on the battlefield, it begins in the mind of man.
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> > <mkr777@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > While we speak of the cruelty to animals, we should also keep in
> > mind the
> > > maiming, death and destruction casued in wars and sacrificing of
> > healthy
> > > young men and women for the sake of "world peace", "national
> > security",
> > > "democrary", "freedom", "emancipation of women" etc. Also when we
> > look at
> > > people (even theosophists) who organize treatments/therapies for
> > those
> > > coming back from war with mental problems, these are the same
> > people who say
> > > not a word about the war itself which is the root cause of all these
> > > suffering. This reminds me of the comments of Ted Turner, the guy
> > who
> > > started CNN said before the war -- it is the dumbest thing to do
> > and he
> > > repeated it even recently.
> > >
> > > mkr
> > >
> > > On 2/9/08, adelasie <adelasie@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Interesting comparison, Cass,
> > > >
> > > > ...as barbaric as a savage eating the heart of a lion to transfer
> > its
> > > > strength to the eater.
> > > >
> > > > The "savages" might have known more than we do about the unity of
> > all
> > > > life. To pray to the animal to come so that the people might be
> > fed,
> > > > or the courage might be shared, to use all the parts of the animal
> > > > for goods that would be made by hand, the only source of such
> > goods,
> > > > to express gratitude to the animal for its sacrifice, to face the
> > > > animal on foot with hand made weapons, this presents quite a
> > > > different scenario. Now we use technology to create weapons that
> > no
> > > > animal could survive. Do we use all the parts of the animal and
> > waste
> > > > nothing? Do we express our gratitude to another life form for its
> > > > sacrifice that we may live? Do we kill an animal so that our tribe
> > > > can survive? Or are we motivated by profit above all?
> > > >
> > > > It seems reasonable to realize that the Japanese are not the only
> > > > nation engaged in some such activity. Maybe we are the "savages."
> > > >
> > > > Adelasie
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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