Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00034)

Indeed, now some more down to earth views:

(the subject has been topic among many theosophists,
especially on the sexual part)

There are 7 needs to be filled when taking on physical
exsistence or in easy language, you need 7 things to
be alive in this world:
Feeding, drinking, shitting, peeing, sex, sleep and as
a cullimination of these 6 a purpose, a goal in life.
All these are natural and usally easy to fullfill. If
any of these 6 needs is malfunctioning i.e. there is
lack or disease the 7th need gets distorted.
A way to accomplish the sane fullfillment of the 6
needs is to look at how Nature acts:

Natura Artis Magistra; nature gives fruits, seeds,
nuts, 1 year plants, as well as through animals: milk,
butter, cheese and eggs. In fact a vegetarian
lifestyle is what nature shows us to use (in fact our
digestion area is built for vegatarian food, just look
at the length of the long bowel.

Drinks should be as pure as possible from the above or
just plain (in our society)filtered water. Alcohol
should be taken only for medicinal purposes.

Shitting and peeing should be done in the most
hygienic way possible, it gives a lust feeling of
relief; cats and dogs used to cover it when done, a
natural instinct to tell them to be clean.

Being fed well and not thirsty leads to sexual
appetite, not attraction to the other sexe, which has
to do with the 7th need. No its just pure lust for
life to be fulfilled with an orgasm usually once a
month. Orgasm comes from the word organism, when an
organism is in good shape it could be called orgastic.
Masturbation is the only way to accomplish this,
without thought, just feeling.

Sleep is the need for being together with the oneself,
the realself who has put your machine in the field of
experience, according your experiences you sleep
deeper or not.

The goal of life could sound like: the need for a
human to solve living in the dualistic world according
to his inner balanced nature.

Much more could be said about this subject, I only
give my own view which is far from perfect and written
down here as debatable thoughts.
So if I am wrong on some part, please share your own
experiences, just like I tried to share mine here.

Greets, Martin



--- nhcareyta <nhcareyta@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Dear Morten and Martin
> 
> Morten, you quote from the article, "Unfortunately,
> far too many 
> readers don't take the necessary time and effort to
> try to understand 
> what H.P.B. is attempting to convey in
> her many writings."
> 
> Martin, you write, "Agreed with this view, but
> beware only half the 
> Truth
> was spread out and as KH put it: 'we need our
> intuition to complete it with the other half'.
> 
> A supporting quote comes from Mr Franklin Merrill
> Wolff:
> "Theosophy in the sense of a doctrine or teaching,
> rather than in the 
> other sense of `way of life,' is said to be a
> partial statement 
> emanating from pure Bodha or the Eternal Wisdom of
> which every 
> authentic religious movement or philosophy is, in
> its origin, a 
> partial statement. 
> Bodha, in its essence and purity, is beyond name,
> form, and symbol, 
> and is eternal; but, in variable degree and in less
> pure form, it is 
> revealed in name, form, and symbol. The degree in
> which it can be 
> revealed to the individual consciousness depends
> upon the purity and 
> evolutionary development of the latter.
> Consequently, the higher 
> aspect of the revealed Bodha is unavoidably esoteric
> for most men. 
> The open religions and philosophies are in the
> nature of stepped-down 
> or exoteric statements, not for arbitrary reasons,
> but from the 
> necessities imposed by the limitations of the
> understanding of most 
> human beings."
> 
> Regards
> Nigel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann
> Olesen" <global-
> theosophy@...> wrote:
> >
> > I think A short excerpt needs to be repeated:
> > "Unfortunately, far too many readers don't take
> the necessary time 
> and 
> > effort to try to understand what H.P.B. is
> attempting to convey in 
> > her many writings. 
> > 
> > And far too often, students interject their own
> thoughts and 
> > understanding into the subject matter. Nothing is
> inherently wrong 
> > with that approach but it is suggested that a
> student might try to 
> > ascertain first of all what H.P.B.'s and the
> Mahatmas' views 
> actually 
> > are on various subjects. 
> > 
> > As a reader studies the material, he might
> constantly ask 
> > himself: "Do I really understand what H.P.B. and
> the Mahatmas are 
> > trying to convey?" "
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Exactly.
> > I can certainly agree on that. Thanks for telling
> me about it.
> > 
> > 
> > M. Sufilight
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: nhcareyta 
> >   To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:07 AM
> >   Subject: Theos-World From Long Sealed Ancient
> Fountains.
> > 
> > 
> >   The Fountain Source 
> >   of Modern Theosophy
> > 
> >   Our knowledge of modern Theosophy sprang from
> two sources: from 
> the 
> >   letters of the Masters Koot Hoomi, Morya and
> several other Adepts 
> and 
> >   from the writings of H.P. Blavatsky. 
> > 
> >   From the letters of the Masters, A.P. Sinnett
> wrote two books: 
> The 
> >   Occult World and Esoteric Buddhism. From the
> knowledge gained 
> >   directly from these Mahatmas, Madame Blavatsky
> penned more than 
> >   10,000 pages of writing including her major
> works Isis Unveiled, 
> The 
> >   Secret Doctrine, The Key to Theosophy and The
> Voice of the 
> Silence.
> > 
> >   The Mahatma Koot Hoomi wrote the following on
> the origin of 
> modern 
> >   Theosophy:
> > 
> >   "Theosophy is no new candidate for the world's
> attention, but 
> only 
> >   the restatement of principles which have been
> recognised from the 
> >   very infancy of mankind."
> > 
> > 
> >   But the Master also emphasized:
> > 
> >   ". . . Our [esoteric and theosophical] doctrine
> . . . is now 
> being 
> >   partially taught to Europeans for the first
> time."
> > 
> >   ". . . We have broken the silence of centuries .
> . . . " 
> > 
> >   ". . . Let it be known that your Society['s] . .
> . chief aim is 
> to 
> >   extirpate current superstitions and skepticism,
> and, from long 
> >   sealed ancient fountains to draw the proof that
> man may shape his 
> own 
> >   future destiny, and know for a certainty that he
> can live 
> hereafter, 
> >   if he only wills; and that all 'phenomena' are
> but manifestations 
> of 
> >   natural law, to try to comprehend which is the
> duty of every 
> >   intelligent being. "
> > 
> >   H.P. Blavatsky wrote of her own role in the
> "restatement" of 
> >   Theosophy to the modern world:
> > 
> >   ". . .We came into contact with certain men,
> endowed with such 
> >   mysterious powers and such profound knowledge
> that we may truly 
> >   designate them as the sages of the Orient. To
> their instructions 
> we 
> >   lent a ready ear." 
> > 
> >   "The work now submitted to public judgment is
> the fruit of a 
> somewhat 
> >   intimate acquaintance with Eastern adepts and
> study of their 
> >   science." 
> > 
> >   " . . . I was the first in the United States to
> bring the 
> existence 
> >   of our Masters into publicity; and . . . exposed
> the holy names 
> of 
> >   two members of a Brotherhood hitherto unknown to
> Europe and 
> America 
> >   (save to a few mystics and Initiates of every
> age), yet sacred 
> and 
> >   revered throughout the East, and especially
> India . . . ."
> > 
> >   And the Mahatmas provided these insights about
> Madame Blavatsky's 
> 
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