Theos-Talk Archives (February 2008 Message tt00016)

Hi Cass,

The only thing I can say that would be consistent with HPB's view  
that theosophy is a scientific religion as well as a religious  
science -- is that Fohat corresponds to the initial fractally  
involved energy fields (Prakriti, or bodies of the Dhyan Chohans)  
woven from a single ray of G-force or ±(CW & CCW) spin momentum  
(Abstract Motion) that emanates from the "spinergy" of the  
"singularity" (Laya Point) of Absolute Space (Parabrahm) that is the  
cosmic egg (Brahma).  The scientific laws of modern physics that come  
closest to describing this are Einstein's theories of special and  
general relativity based on Maxwell's electrodynamic laws of light  
and energy.

For a geometric and topologically explained ABC view of all this go to:
http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/23/13  (Scroll down, and if the  
illustrations don't appear, go to the links shown in the statement.)

Also, for an overview of How it All Began, including the theosophical  
correlations, go to:
http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html

And for a humorous view of the initial infinite, non linear  
continuous abstract motion that gave birth to everything, as well as  
establishing the cyclic laws of the 2nd fundamental principle, see:  
http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/BuddhaBabyGordianKnot.jpg

It's the dual inner fields of the 1st Logos that could be considered  
the "Universal Mind"... Which, added to the twin inner fields of the  
second and third Logos are the mind-bodies of the Dhyana Chohans (2+4 
+8=14) the "sum total" of the formula in the Book of Dzyan.

Since all the Fohatic energy is electrodynamic in nature, its first  
perceptively phenomenal radiation is pure Light -- which, at the  
first Logos, is "The Great Sphere of (Spiritual) Light" you refer  
to... That carries -- through all its initial fractal involutions (as  
holographic wave interference patterned information on its G-Force  
woven spherical surfaces) -- all the 4-dimensional (3 spatial+1 time)  
archetypal images of the entire space-time cosmos (that later  
precipitates out from the Astral Level, as various forms of matter- 
energy, onto our visible spacetime on the 4th lowest physical  
level) ... More or less like the way you poetically described it  
below.  Although, I'm not sure that the idea of a "God creator,"  
separate from our own higher self, fits in with the fundamental  
principles.

While the archetypal image of Man IDEALLY resides in the initial  
cosmic fields -- our individual physical bodies evolve through  
electrodynamic evolutionary processes, such as the morphogenetic  
field concepts of Rupert Sheldrake -- that implies holographic  
reconstructive transformation from higher order to lower order  
fields.  But, this process is far too complex to explain here... And,  
the ABC model is only concerned with the initial cosmogenesis -- as  
the basis of everything that can occur in each of the four worlds at  
the will of consciousness... The highest order of which is cosmic or  
"god consciousness" -- that can only act through the highest Dhyan  
Chohans -- who are far removed from the mundane affairs of our  
individual consciousness.  Thus, it's our own consciousness (along  
with the karma it creates and the skandhas it accumulates) that is  
responsible for the actual holographic body forms that we inhabit  
from life to life.

Incidentally, the ABC model goes even further into explaining the  
origination of the "dark matter-energy" that modern science has just  
begun to recognize as existing -- but which HPB also explained in the  
SD.  Unfortunately, I have no references to point you to, but am sure  
there are others here that can.

Best wishes,

Leon (a.k.a. Lenny)

On Feb 3, 2008, at 2/3/085:15 PM, Cass Silva wrote:

> Thanks Leon.  It's so great to have you as a reliable source.   
> Relieved to hear that this technology cannot be used against us at  
> this point in time, as a projection of a Christlike figure in the  
> sky would provide christians the 'sign' they are all waiting for  
> and has the potential to cause havoc in the world.
>
>   How then do we explain the holographic universe?  I can see how  
> our dreams are holographic representations of thoughts we have had  
> during the day.  How is this explained in theosophical terms when  
> it comes to the godhead.
>
>   Blavatsky talks about "Manvantaric impulse commencing with the  
> reawakening of Universal Mind concurrently with and parallel to the  
> primary emergence of cosmic substance or Fohat, and that Fohat, the  
> cosmic substance is produced parallel with Cosmic Ideation or  
> Universal Mind.  Fohat is the space in between the ideas or  
> thoughts of the Creator - it is the empty blackboard ready for the  
> forms." Mahatmas tell us that it is Energy and is the incessant  
> motion one body is making on another, and it is this motion that  
> transfers ideals into that of finite manifestation, or from the  
> noumenal to the phenomenal. Thge centrifugal and centripetal action  
> innate within Fohat causes ideals to become objective on the plane  
> of illusion".  "This Universal Mind, this Great Self, as a GREAT  
> SPHERE OF LIGHT, holding within itself as its contents the  
> archetypal images of all the worlds to be, images which float in  
> that LIGHT as jellyfish within a sea.  This sphere of Light is  
> conscious all over
>  at once; and each of its archetypal images, though ideally  
> distinct from the others, yet pervade the whole.
>
>   "Universal Mind is not out there-it must be sought within  
> ourselves - we are moments of it - of that light - it is our very  
> self"  "The inner teacher resides, in the centre between the eyes.
>
>   So does this all mean that WE ARE THE HOLOGRAMS of Creator.  We  
> are the conscious manifestation of some great ideal the godhead has  
> created or projected for us?
>
>   It makes me want to call myself Hologram 56894321!  LOL
>
>   Cheers
>   Cass
>
> Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@aol.com> wrote:
>           Hi Cass,
>
> I'm afraid that -- while I know about how holograms are projected in
> small closed theater spaces that can be viewed by a few people at a
> time (it's been done at Disneyland and Disneyworld at several sites
> in the US), and also know that the Russians have developed a
> holographic theatrical movie projection system that seems to work --
> such projected holograms are nothing more than pure light images that
> have no physical or material substantiality. Therefore, even if
> planes could be projected as holographs, they would have no effect on
> a physical building. So, since I actually saw the twin towers hit
> and coming down while it was happening, I'm sure the planes you saw
> in the replay were certainly not holographs. (BTW, "holograms" are
> actually the interference patterns on film that encode the projected
> holographs.) As for Christ in the sky, I'm certain it could be done
> someday using high powdered laser projectors, perhaps, but I have no
> idea how far that technology has progressed, or whether it's
> economically feasible to even invest in research and development.
>
> Leon
>
> On Feb 2, 2008, at 2/2/085:24 PM, Cass Silva wrote:
>
>> Hi Leon,
>> I was wondering if you would know if WE now have the technology
>> to project Holograms? I am asking this question as I recently saw
>> Prince Phillip projected as a Hologram. If this is the case, then
>> would it be possible to project a hologram into the skies in the
>> image of a christ or whatever, and not that I want to start a riot
>> here over 911 but would you know if there is any possibility that
>> the planes we saw were holograms and if so, would they have had the
>> capacity to knock out the towers?
>>
>> Cass
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