Theos-Talk Archives (December 2007 Message tt00096)

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-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@...> wrote:
>
> It's probably pretty safe to say that manipulations of material 
life, 
> such as smoking or not smoking, eating meat or not eating meat, do 
> not guarantee enlightenment. It is the inner life that is 
> significant, and how it manifests. Are we kind and thoughtful, 
> selfless and altruistic, compassionate and non-judgemental? Do we 
try 
> to accept responsibility for our actions and do we try to do the 
> right thing? Do we try to think for ourselves? There are lists 
> everywhere in occultism that describe the student's aspirations. 
And 
> above all, be sure, when the student is ready  the teacher will 
> appear. But be careful of making judgements about another's 
process. 
> No one can really know another's heart. As for HPB, if you want to 
> judge her, do so by reading all her work and meditating upon her 
> accomplishments, keeping in mind what we know about her life, her 
> complete selflessness, how she provided us not only with the 
> teachings we need to get through these "interesting times," but 
with 
> an example to emulate in our own process. 
> 
> Happy New Year all,
> Adelasie
> 
> On 30 Dec 2007 at 19:30, MKR wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone "really" know the criteria used to be accepted as a 
chela? I
> > doubt. Don't apply our worldly standards. Col Olcott, a smoker 
and a meat
> > eater, was visited by several Adepts. Thousands of others who led 
a clean
> > life -- vegetarian, nonsmoker etc. have never even heard of the 
Adepts,
> > leave alone being visited by Adepts.
> > 
> > mkr
> > On 12/2
> > 8/07, Richard Semock <semockr@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Its well known that HPB was a chain smoker and addicted to 
nicotine and
> > > possibly hash. Its hard to see why she was chosen to be the 
messenger
> > > of theosophy even after a 7yr stint as a strictly disciplined 
chela.
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-
talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Konstantin Zaitzev" <kay_ziatz@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-
talk%40yahoogroups.com>, Marko
> > > Manninen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > what were the tests and objectives of seven year long
> > > apprenticeship
> > > > > in early Theosophy? I'd like to find references to books 
handling
> > > >
> > > > I don't know which exactly they were but I understood that a
> > > candidate
> > > > was tested during the process of theosophical work. Most of 
those who
> > > > proved to be failures finally openly condemned H.P. 
Blavatsky, so
> > > > their failure became obvious to all.
> > > > Funny enough that one of them is that author whom I would 
recommend.
> > > > It was M. Chatterjee who more than others wrote about 
qualifications
> > > > for discipleship in early years of the Theosophical Society.
> > > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > 
> > 
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