Theos-Talk Archives (November 2007 Message tt00161)

Probably dressed in a three piece business suit.

mkr


On 11/21/07, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   That would be quite a parade
> Cass
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: M K Ramadoss <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 3:43:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World white horses
>
> How about a white stretch limousine?
>
> mkr
>
> On 11/21/07, Augoeides-222@ comcast.net <Augoeides-222@ comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Christina,
> > Hmmm, isn't it also possible that the "Horse" as "Vehicle" of the "Final
> > Avatar" is spiritual and would be the Purusha as the final consumation
> ofthe
> > Cycle?
> >
> > John
> > ------------ -- Original message ------------ --
> > From: "christinaleestemak er" <christinaleestemake r@yahoo.com<r%40yahoo.com><christinaleestemak
> er%40yahoo. com>>
> >
> > -Lipizzaner, the beauties from Slovenia are the best for drilling or
> > training.
> > Then there are Andalusian and Berber horses.
> > That are the three races have totally white body.
> > Christina
> >
> > -- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>, Cass
> > Silva <silva_cass@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Come to think of it Christina I have not seen many white race
> > horses! They certainly would stand out in the crowd.!
> > > Cass
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: christinaleestemake r <christinaleestemak er@...>
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:59:45 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Recreating TS History
> > >
> > > Cass are white horses a race?????
> > > I only know they are not as dangerous as black arabs.
> > > Christina
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was referring to a horse race! Thought I might put a small
> > wager
> > > on it.
> > > > Cass
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: "Drpsionic@ .." <Drpsionic@ ..>
> > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:59:12 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Recreating TS History
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And if he's like all the others he'll fall off of it.
> > > >
> > > > Chuck the Heretic
> > > >
> > > > http://www.geocitie s.com/c_cosimano
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com>
> > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > > > Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 4:47 pm
> > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Recreating TS History
> > > >
> > > > Which race?
> > > > Cass
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: christinaleestemake r <christinaleestemak e r@yahoo.com<r%40yahoo.com>
> <r%40yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:00:41 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Recreating TS History
> > > >
> > > > Next avantar is coming on a white horse!!!
> > > >
> > > > Christ in a
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Frank Reitemeyer" <dzyan@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At the infantile and idiotic Adyar covent in Berlin in 2002
> > (100th
> > > > > Anniversary of the German section) it was claimed at a poster
> > > wall
> > > > that
> > > > > Leadbeater was President of the TS.
> > > > >
> > > > > A clairvoyant lecturer - she writes books about her encounters
> > > > with the
> > > > > Masters - revealed that all the Masters (she named: Morya,
> > > > Koothoomi,
> > > > > Blavatsky, Krishnamurti, Hilarion and a few others - I have
> > > > written a memo,
> > > > > but writing now from memory) were present. They nodded from the
> > > > ceiling.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow, was that a harmonious and brotherly event!
> > > > > With only myself present for the dark side of the moon!
> > > > >
> > > > > Frank the Galactic Emperor
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: gregory@
> > > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:44 PM
> > > > > Subject: Theos-World Recrating TS History
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The website of the TS in Australia recently published material
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > Amphitheatre constructed on Sydney Habour as part of the
> > > > preparation for
> > > > > the Coming of the World Teacher. Both the preamble to a letter
> > > > sent to the
> > > > > "Sydney Morning Herald", and the letter from the National
> > > > President of the
> > > > > TS in Australia, are excellent examples of attempts at the re-
> > > > creation of
> > > > > Theosophical history. Perhaps Ms Oliveira was assisted in her
> > > > careful use
> > > > > of language by her husband, Pedro Oliveira, a bishop of the
> > > Liberal
> > > > > Catholic Church, who demonstrates similar verbal gymnastics on
> > > his
> > > > site
> > > > > for the re-creation of Leadbeater's biography.
> > > > > I have added a few historical corrections in parentheses, and
> > have
> > > > > separated out the "Theosophy in Australia" comments and Ms
> > > > Oliveira's
> > > > > claims to facilitate this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dr Gregory Tillett
> > > > >
> > > > > "The Star Amphitheatre at Balmoral Beach in Sydney was the
> > vision
> > > > of Dr.
> > > > > Mary Rocke, a prominent theosophical worker in Sydney in the
> > > > 1920s. She
> > > > > purchased land and worked tirelessly to raise the money (through
> > > > > donations) for its construction, which commenced in 1923 and
> > was
> > > > completed
> > > > > a year later."
> > > > >
> > > > > "The Star Amphitheatre had no connection at all with the
> > > > Theosophical
> > > > > Society."
> > > > > [Apart from the fact that all those associated with it were
> > > eminent
> > > > > members of the TS, that the foundation stone was laid and
> > > > "consecrated" by
> > > > > Leadbeater with Theosophist- Co-Masons enthusiastically
> > > > participating, that
> > > > > it contained a Shrine Room for the ES of the TS, that TS
> > members
> > > > were
> > > > > urged to contribute to the building of the Amphitheatre in TS
> > > > > publications, etc, etc.]
> > > > >
> > > > > "It was built by an organization known as The Order of the Star
> > > in
> > > > the
> > > > > East (OSE) which had been formed in 1911 in Benares (now
> > > > Varanasi), India,
> > > > > in order to support the work of J. Krishnamurti, especially in
> > his
> > > > > prophesized role as the next 'World Teacher'."
> > > > > [The OSE, presumably using this logic had nothing to do with
> > the
> > > > TS either
> > > > > - apart from being headed by Besant and Leadbeater, who were
> > the
> > > > ones who
> > > > > "prophesized" Krishnamurti' s World Teacher role, apart from
> > > having
> > > > in all
> > > > > its senior positions senior members of the TS, apart from being
> > > > promoted
> > > > > in "The Theosophist" and other TS journals, apart from holding
> > > its
> > > > meeting
> > > > > in TS premises, apart from books promoting the Coming being
> > > > published by
> > > > > the TPH, etc, etc.]
> > > > >
> > > > > "In August 1929 Krishnamurti publicly renounced that role and
> > > > dissolved
> > > > > the OSE."
> > > > > [Not quite what Krishnamurti said..but he certainly did
> > dissolve
> > > > the OSE.]
> > > > > "Over the decades since that time sections of the Australian
> > > press
> > > > have
> > > > > repeated the story, based on the poetic licence of a journalist
> > > > for the
> > > > > Truth - a newspaper that specialized in 'sensational news', that
> > > > > Krishnamurti, in his role as World Teacher, was going to walk
> > on
> > > > water
> > > > > through the Heads of Sydney Harbour before addressing a
> > gathering
> > > > of
> > > > > followers at the amphitheatre! "
> > > > >
> > > > > (Source: Theosophy in Australia, March 1989)
> > > > >
> > > > > "We reproduce below the letter which the National President of
> > the
> > > > > Theosophical Society in Australia, Linda Oliveira, sent to the
> > > > editor of
> > > > > The Sydney Morning Herald about the old myth of Krishnamurti
> > > > 'walking on
> > > > > the water'. Unfortunately the letter was not published."
> > > > >
> > > > > "17 October 2007
> > > > > "Balmoral Amphitheatre - The Facts
> > > > >
> > > > > "The letter of 17 October from Tony Backhouse continues the
> > > > persistent,
> > > > > incorrect and sensationalised myth regarding The Theosophical
> > > > Society
> > > > > (TS), the Order of the Star in the East (OSE), the former
> > > Balmoral
> > > > Beach
> > > > > amphitheatre and 'predictions' of a Messiah walking on water.
> > > This
> > > > is
> > > > > based on a serious misunderstanding. Here are some facts."
> > > > >
> > > > > "The TS and the OSE were very separate organisations. "
> > > > > [apart from the facts that..see comments above..]
> > > > >
> > > > > "The TS, formed in 1875, still exists as a world-wide
> > > organisation
> > > > today.
> > > > > Its members are united by a common search and aspiration for
> > > truth
> > > > in
> > > > > their lives."
> > > > >
> > > > > "The OSE was founded to promote the work of J. Krishnamurti and
> > > was
> > > > > disbanded in 1929. However, its supporters and organisers
> > included
> > > > > individuals from both organisations thus leading to a
> > > > misunderstanding of
> > > > > the role of the TS. J. Krishnamurti was, for a time, a member
> > of
> > > > the TS."
> > > > > [The OSE was founded by leaders of the TS - Besant, Leadbeater,
> > > > Arundale -
> > > > > unless Ms Oliveira can name anyone of significance in the OSE
> > who
> > > > was not
> > > > > also a major player in the TS? The "supporters and organisers"
> > > and
> > > > the OSE
> > > > > did not "include" some members of the TS: the vast majority of
> > > its
> > > > members
> > > > > were also members of the TS.]
> > > > >
> > > > > "The amphitheatre was built with private funds to provide a
> > venue
> > > > for the
> > > > > teachings of J. Krishnamurti, who some saw as a future World
> > > > Teacher."
> > > > > [Perhaps it might be mentioned that the "some" who saw
> > > > Krishnamurti as a
> > > > > "future World Teacher" include the then President of the TS and
> > > OH
> > > > of the
> > > > > ES, Annie Besant, along with every leading figure in the TS -
> > like
> > > > > Leadbeater, Jinarajadasa, Arundale, Ernest Wood, J.I. Wedgwood
> > -
> > > > who
> > > > > published their claims in "The Theosophist" and almost every
> > > other
> > > > TS
> > > > > journal, and gave public lectures promoting them?]
> > > > >
> > > > > "There was never any suggestion that he would "walk on water
> > > > through
> > > > > Sydney Heads". As far as is known he gave only one lecture in
> > the
> > > > > amphitheatre. "
> > > > >
> > > > > "It is important to emphasise that The TS, as an organisation,
> > > > since its
> > > > > early days has subscribed to no Messiahs and has no formal
> > > > affiliation
> > > > > with any other organisations. Also, the TS has no ideology
> > which
> > > is
> > > > > binding on any member."
> > > > > [Apart, perhaps, from "The Basic Truths of Religion" agreed
> > upon
> > > > by the
> > > > > General Council of he TS on December 23, 1925 - and presumably
> > > > > subsequently repudiated - which included the statement: "The
> > Wold
> > > > Religion
> > > > > will thus help in preparing the way for the Coming of the World-
> > > > Teacher,
> > > > > who shall give to the Basic Truths the form suited to the age
> > He
> > > > will open
> > > > > - the Age of Brotherhood. "]
> > > > >
> > > > > "Linda Oliveira
> > > > > National President, Theosophical Society in Australia"
> > > > >
> > > >
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