Theos-Talk Archives (November 2007 Message tt00129)

-Lipizzaner, the beauties from Slovenia are the best for drilling or 
training.
Then there are Andalusian and Berber horses.
That are the three races have totally white body.
Christina





-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
>
> Come to think of it Christina I have not seen many white race 
horses!  They certainly would stand out in the crowd.!
> Cass
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@...>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:59:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Recreating TS History
> 
> Cass are white horses a race?????
> I only know they are not as dangerous as black arabs.
> Christina
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ ...> 
wrote:
> >
> > I was referring to a horse race! Thought I might put a small 
wager 
> on it.
> > Cass
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "Drpsionic@ .." <Drpsionic@ ..>
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:59:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Recreating TS History
> > 
> > 
> > And if he's like all the others he'll fall off of it.
> > 
> > Chuck the Heretic
> > 
> > http://www.geocitie s.com/c_cosimano 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com>
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 4:47 pm
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Recreating TS History
> > 
> > Which race?
> > Cass
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: christinaleestemake r <christinaleestemak e r@yahoo.com>
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:00:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Recreating TS History
> > 
> > Next avantar is coming on a white horse!!!
> > 
> > Christ in a
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Frank Reitemeyer" <dzyan@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > At the infantile and idiotic Adyar covent in Berlin in 2002 
(100th
> > > Anniversary of the German section) it was claimed at a poster 
> wall 
> > that
> > > Leadbeater was President of the TS.
> > > 
> > > A clairvoyant lecturer - she writes books about her encounters 
> > with the
> > > Masters - revealed that all the Masters (she named: Morya, 
> > Koothoomi,
> > > Blavatsky, Krishnamurti, Hilarion and a few others - I have 
> > written a memo,
> > > but writing now from memory) were present. They nodded from the 
> > ceiling.
> > > 
> > > Wow, was that a harmonious and brotherly event!
> > > With only myself present for the dark side of the moon!
> > > 
> > > Frank the Galactic Emperor
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: gregory@
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:44 PM
> > > Subject: Theos-World Recrating TS History
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The website of the TS in Australia recently published material 
on 
> > the
> > > Amphitheatre constructed on Sydney Habour as part of the 
> > preparation for
> > > the Coming of the World Teacher. Both the preamble to a letter 
> > sent to the
> > > "Sydney Morning Herald", and the letter from the National 
> > President of the
> > > TS in Australia, are excellent examples of attempts at the re-
> > creation of
> > > Theosophical history. Perhaps Ms Oliveira was assisted in her 
> > careful use
> > > of language by her husband, Pedro Oliveira, a bishop of the 
> Liberal
> > > Catholic Church, who demonstrates similar verbal gymnastics on 
> his 
> > site
> > > for the re-creation of Leadbeater's biography.
> > > I have added a few historical corrections in parentheses, and 
have
> > > separated out the "Theosophy in Australia" comments and Ms 
> > Oliveira's
> > > claims to facilitate this.
> > > 
> > > Dr Gregory Tillett
> > > 
> > > "The Star Amphitheatre at Balmoral Beach in Sydney was the 
vision 
> > of Dr.
> > > Mary Rocke, a prominent theosophical worker in Sydney in the 
> > 1920s. She
> > > purchased land and worked tirelessly to raise the money (through
> > > donations) for its construction, which commenced in 1923 and 
was 
> > completed
> > > a year later."
> > > 
> > > "The Star Amphitheatre had no connection at all with the 
> > Theosophical
> > > Society."
> > > [Apart from the fact that all those associated with it were 
> eminent
> > > members of the TS, that the foundation stone was laid and 
> > "consecrated" by
> > > Leadbeater with Theosophist- Co-Masons enthusiastically 
> > participating, that
> > > it contained a Shrine Room for the ES of the TS, that TS 
members 
> > were
> > > urged to contribute to the building of the Amphitheatre in TS
> > > publications, etc, etc.]
> > > 
> > > "It was built by an organization known as The Order of the Star 
> in 
> > the
> > > East (OSE) which had been formed in 1911 in Benares (now 
> > Varanasi), India,
> > > in order to support the work of J. Krishnamurti, especially in 
his
> > > prophesized role as the next 'World Teacher'."
> > > [The OSE, presumably using this logic had nothing to do with 
the 
> > TS either
> > > - apart from being headed by Besant and Leadbeater, who were 
the 
> > ones who
> > > "prophesized" Krishnamurti' s World Teacher role, apart from 
> having 
> > in all
> > > its senior positions senior members of the TS, apart from being 
> > promoted
> > > in "The Theosophist" and other TS journals, apart from holding 
> its 
> > meeting
> > > in TS premises, apart from books promoting the Coming being 
> > published by
> > > the TPH, etc, etc.]
> > > 
> > > "In August 1929 Krishnamurti publicly renounced that role and 
> > dissolved
> > > the OSE."
> > > [Not quite what Krishnamurti said..but he certainly did 
dissolve 
> > the OSE.]
> > > "Over the decades since that time sections of the Australian 
> press 
> > have
> > > repeated the story, based on the poetic licence of a journalist 
> > for the
> > > Truth - a newspaper that specialized in 'sensational news', that
> > > Krishnamurti, in his role as World Teacher, was going to walk 
on 
> > water
> > > through the Heads of Sydney Harbour before addressing a 
gathering 
> > of
> > > followers at the amphitheatre! "
> > > 
> > > (Source: Theosophy in Australia, March 1989)
> > > 
> > > "We reproduce below the letter which the National President of 
the
> > > Theosophical Society in Australia, Linda Oliveira, sent to the 
> > editor of
> > > The Sydney Morning Herald about the old myth of Krishnamurti 
> > 'walking on
> > > the water'. Unfortunately the letter was not published."
> > > 
> > > "17 October 2007
> > > "Balmoral Amphitheatre - The Facts
> > > 
> > > "The letter of 17 October from Tony Backhouse continues the 
> > persistent,
> > > incorrect and sensationalised myth regarding The Theosophical 
> > Society
> > > (TS), the Order of the Star in the East (OSE), the former 
> Balmoral 
> > Beach
> > > amphitheatre and 'predictions' of a Messiah walking on water. 
> This 
> > is
> > > based on a serious misunderstanding. Here are some facts."
> > > 
> > > "The TS and the OSE were very separate organisations. "
> > > [apart from the facts that..see comments above..]
> > > 
> > > "The TS, formed in 1875, still exists as a world-wide 
> organisation 
> > today.
> > > Its members are united by a common search and aspiration for 
> truth 
> > in
> > > their lives."
> > > 
> > > "The OSE was founded to promote the work of J. Krishnamurti and 
> was
> > > disbanded in 1929. However, its supporters and organisers 
included
> > > individuals from both organisations thus leading to a 
> > misunderstanding of
> > > the role of the TS. J. Krishnamurti was, for a time, a member 
of 
> > the TS."
> > > [The OSE was founded by leaders of the TS - Besant, Leadbeater, 
> > Arundale -
> > > unless Ms Oliveira can name anyone of significance in the OSE 
who 
> > was not
> > > also a major player in the TS? The "supporters and organisers" 
> and 
> > the OSE
> > > did not "include" some members of the TS: the vast majority of 
> its 
> > members
> > > were also members of the TS.]
> > > 
> > > "The amphitheatre was built with private funds to provide a 
venue 
> > for the
> > > teachings of J. Krishnamurti, who some saw as a future World 
> > Teacher."
> > > [Perhaps it might be mentioned that the "some" who saw 
> > Krishnamurti as a
> > > "future World Teacher" include the then President of the TS and 
> OH 
> > of the
> > > ES, Annie Besant, along with every leading figure in the TS - 
like
> > > Leadbeater, Jinarajadasa, Arundale, Ernest Wood, J.I. Wedgwood 
- 
> > who
> > > published their claims in "The Theosophist" and almost every 
> other 
> > TS
> > > journal, and gave public lectures promoting them?]
> > > 
> > > "There was never any suggestion that he would "walk on water 
> > through
> > > Sydney Heads". As far as is known he gave only one lecture in 
the
> > > amphitheatre. "
> > > 
> > > "It is important to emphasise that The TS, as an organisation, 
> > since its
> > > early days has subscribed to no Messiahs and has no formal 
> > affiliation
> > > with any other organisations. Also, the TS has no ideology 
which 
> is
> > > binding on any member."
> > > [Apart, perhaps, from "The Basic Truths of Religion" agreed 
upon 
> > by the
> > > General Council of he TS on December 23, 1925 - and presumably
> > > subsequently repudiated - which included the statement: "The 
Wold 
> > Religion
> > > will thus help in preparing the way for the Coming of the World-
> > Teacher,
> > > who shall give to the Basic Truths the form suited to the age 
He 
> > will open
> > > - the Age of Brotherhood. "]
> > > 
> > > "Linda Oliveira
> > > National President, Theosophical Society in Australia"
> > >
> > 
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