Theos-Talk Archives (November 2007 Message tt00113)

Cass are white horses a race?????
I only know they are not as dangerous as black arabs.
Christina













--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
>
> I was referring to a horse race!  Thought I might put a small wager 
on it.
> Cass
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Drpsionic@..." <Drpsionic@...>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:59:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Recreating TS History
> 
> 
> And if he's like all the others he'll fall off of it.
> 
> Chuck the Heretic
> 
> http://www.geocitie s.com/c_cosimano 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 4:47 pm
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Recreating TS History
> 
> Which race?
> Cass
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: christinaleestemake r <christinaleestemake r@yahoo.com>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:00:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Recreating TS History
> 
> Next avantar is coming on a white horse!!!
> 
> Christ in a
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Frank Reitemeyer" <dzyan@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > At the infantile and idiotic Adyar covent in Berlin in 2002 (100th
> > Anniversary of the German section) it was claimed at a poster 
wall 
> that
> > Leadbeater was President of the TS.
> > 
> > A clairvoyant lecturer - she writes books about her encounters 
> with the
> > Masters - revealed that all the Masters (she named: Morya, 
> Koothoomi,
> > Blavatsky, Krishnamurti, Hilarion and a few others - I have 
> written a memo,
> > but writing now from memory) were present. They nodded from the 
> ceiling.
> > 
> > Wow, was that a harmonious and brotherly event!
> > With only myself present for the dark side of the moon!
> > 
> > Frank the Galactic Emperor
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: gregory@
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:44 PM
> > Subject: Theos-World Recrating TS History
> > 
> > 
> > The website of the TS in Australia recently published material on 
> the
> > Amphitheatre constructed on Sydney Habour as part of the 
> preparation for
> > the Coming of the World Teacher. Both the preamble to a letter 
> sent to the
> > "Sydney Morning Herald", and the letter from the National 
> President of the
> > TS in Australia, are excellent examples of attempts at the re-
> creation of
> > Theosophical history. Perhaps Ms Oliveira was assisted in her 
> careful use
> > of language by her husband, Pedro Oliveira, a bishop of the 
Liberal
> > Catholic Church, who demonstrates similar verbal gymnastics on 
his 
> site
> > for the re-creation of Leadbeater's biography.
> > I have added a few historical corrections in parentheses, and have
> > separated out the "Theosophy in Australia" comments and Ms 
> Oliveira's
> > claims to facilitate this.
> > 
> > Dr Gregory Tillett
> > 
> > "The Star Amphitheatre at Balmoral Beach in Sydney was the vision 
> of Dr.
> > Mary Rocke, a prominent theosophical worker in Sydney in the 
> 1920s. She
> > purchased land and worked tirelessly to raise the money (through
> > donations) for its construction, which commenced in 1923 and was 
> completed
> > a year later."
> > 
> > "The Star Amphitheatre had no connection at all with the 
> Theosophical
> > Society."
> > [Apart from the fact that all those associated with it were 
eminent
> > members of the TS, that the foundation stone was laid and 
> "consecrated" by
> > Leadbeater with Theosophist- Co-Masons enthusiastically 
> participating, that
> > it contained a Shrine Room for the ES of the TS, that TS members 
> were
> > urged to contribute to the building of the Amphitheatre in TS
> > publications, etc, etc.]
> > 
> > "It was built by an organization known as The Order of the Star 
in 
> the
> > East (OSE) which had been formed in 1911 in Benares (now 
> Varanasi), India,
> > in order to support the work of J. Krishnamurti, especially in his
> > prophesized role as the next 'World Teacher'."
> > [The OSE, presumably using this logic had nothing to do with the 
> TS either
> > - apart from being headed by Besant and Leadbeater, who were the 
> ones who
> > "prophesized" Krishnamurti' s World Teacher role, apart from 
having 
> in all
> > its senior positions senior members of the TS, apart from being 
> promoted
> > in "The Theosophist" and other TS journals, apart from holding 
its 
> meeting
> > in TS premises, apart from books promoting the Coming being 
> published by
> > the TPH, etc, etc.]
> > 
> > "In August 1929 Krishnamurti publicly renounced that role and 
> dissolved
> > the OSE."
> > [Not quite what Krishnamurti said..but he certainly did dissolve 
> the OSE.]
> > "Over the decades since that time sections of the Australian 
press 
> have
> > repeated the story, based on the poetic licence of a journalist 
> for the
> > Truth - a newspaper that specialized in 'sensational news', that
> > Krishnamurti, in his role as World Teacher, was going to walk on 
> water
> > through the Heads of Sydney Harbour before addressing a gathering 
> of
> > followers at the amphitheatre! "
> > 
> > (Source: Theosophy in Australia, March 1989)
> > 
> > "We reproduce below the letter which the National President of the
> > Theosophical Society in Australia, Linda Oliveira, sent to the 
> editor of
> > The Sydney Morning Herald about the old myth of Krishnamurti 
> 'walking on
> > the water'. Unfortunately the letter was not published."
> > 
> > "17 October 2007
> > "Balmoral Amphitheatre - The Facts
> > 
> > "The letter of 17 October from Tony Backhouse continues the 
> persistent,
> > incorrect and sensationalised myth regarding The Theosophical 
> Society
> > (TS), the Order of the Star in the East (OSE), the former 
Balmoral 
> Beach
> > amphitheatre and 'predictions' of a Messiah walking on water. 
This 
> is
> > based on a serious misunderstanding. Here are some facts."
> > 
> > "The TS and the OSE were very separate organisations. "
> > [apart from the facts that..see comments above..]
> > 
> > "The TS, formed in 1875, still exists as a world-wide 
organisation 
> today.
> > Its members are united by a common search and aspiration for 
truth 
> in
> > their lives."
> > 
> > "The OSE was founded to promote the work of J. Krishnamurti and 
was
> > disbanded in 1929. However, its supporters and organisers included
> > individuals from both organisations thus leading to a 
> misunderstanding of
> > the role of the TS. J. Krishnamurti was, for a time, a member of 
> the TS."
> > [The OSE was founded by leaders of the TS - Besant, Leadbeater, 
> Arundale -
> > unless Ms Oliveira can name anyone of significance in the OSE who 
> was not
> > also a major player in the TS? The "supporters and organisers" 
and 
> the OSE
> > did not "include" some members of the TS: the vast majority of 
its 
> members
> > were also members of the TS.]
> > 
> > "The amphitheatre was built with private funds to provide a venue 
> for the
> > teachings of J. Krishnamurti, who some saw as a future World 
> Teacher."
> > [Perhaps it might be mentioned that the "some" who saw 
> Krishnamurti as a
> > "future World Teacher" include the then President of the TS and 
OH 
> of the
> > ES, Annie Besant, along with every leading figure in the TS - like
> > Leadbeater, Jinarajadasa, Arundale, Ernest Wood, J.I. Wedgwood - 
> who
> > published their claims in "The Theosophist" and almost every 
other 
> TS
> > journal, and gave public lectures promoting them?]
> > 
> > "There was never any suggestion that he would "walk on water 
> through
> > Sydney Heads". As far as is known he gave only one lecture in the
> > amphitheatre. "
> > 
> > "It is important to emphasise that The TS, as an organisation, 
> since its
> > early days has subscribed to no Messiahs and has no formal 
> affiliation
> > with any other organisations. Also, the TS has no ideology which 
is
> > binding on any member."
> > [Apart, perhaps, from "The Basic Truths of Religion" agreed upon 
> by the
> > General Council of he TS on December 23, 1925 - and presumably
> > subsequently repudiated - which included the statement: "The Wold 
> Religion
> > will thus help in preparing the way for the Coming of the World-
> Teacher,
> > who shall give to the Basic Truths the form suited to the age He 
> will open
> > - the Age of Brotherhood. "]
> > 
> > "Linda Oliveira
> > National President, Theosophical Society in Australia"
> >
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