Theos-Talk Archives (October 2007 Message tt00057)

Sorry for taking so long to respond, but the original letter got misplaced 
while transferring files to a new computer.   LM

In a message dated 6/19/07 9:59:08 AM, medinuclear@hotmail.com writes:

> Leon Maurer wrote (Full Princeton Theory at the bottom):
> 
> Next step... The possible connection of string theory with the linkages
> between mind, memory, brain and consciousness.  Perhaps, the "hyperspace"
> fields enfolded within the Planck vacuum, that gauge and other quantum
> theories can't seem to reach, could be that linkage ...    Much food for
> thought here.
> 
> Philip Benjamin responds:
> 
> Igor Klebanov, the Thomas D. Jones Professor of Mathematical Physics at
> Princeton and an author of on the subject is quoted in the same paper:
> 
> **These problems include describing the interactions among the quarks within
> everyday atomic nuclei,"  We have previously been able to study these
> interactions in detail only at the high-energy conditions within particle
> accelerators, but with these findings we may be able to describe what is
> happening inside the atoms that make up rocks and trees. We cannot do so
> yet, but it appears that the math of string theory could be what we need to
> bridge this gap.**
> 
> According to the authors of the paper, the best that can be expected from
> this is ** to describe what is happening inside the atoms that make up rocks
> and trees** (the visible world of ORDINARY MATTER), NOT what is happening
> inside MIND (the invisible world of EXTRAORDINARY MATTER),  unless the
> invisible MIND is also made of invisible constituents which are subject to
> the same STRING THEORY. Mind works and causes events in the PHYSICAL realm.
> Only a PHYSICAL MIND can DO physical things. THINKING is DOING. Thought is
> an act. An INVISIBLE physical act.
> 
LM:   Yes, but only because the images of THOUGHT would have to be carried as 
electrodynamic WAVE INTERFERENCE PATTERNS on radiant (Supra-or Metaphysical) 
fields that could be of a much higher frequency-energy order, and thus, having 
REAL existence as the INVISIBLE ZPE fields (quantum foam) in the Planck space 
-- as already thoroughly proven experimentally by Casimir and Aspect, among 
others.   

This is the "EXTRAORDINARY MATTER" that I speak of in my ABC model -- which 
is NOT a part of the DARK MATTER you presumedly ascribe consciousness and mind 
to.   Since these "invisible" energy fields of MIND and MEMORY are a 
"different condition", as well as the fundamental root of physical mass-energy, they 
would have to be labeled "metaphysical." 

It is these ZPE or "etheric" fields of INVISIBLE force or metaphysical 
matter, that are the cause and empowerment of ALL the quantum particles -- which 
are, in turn, the foundation of ALL the atoms, molecules and other material 
structures throughout the cosmos -- out to the furthest galaxies, densest black 
holes, and brightest quasars.   

Incidentally, the "Dark Matter" (in its twin aspects) -- which is totally 
independent (other than gravitationally) from the "Light Matter" -- are clearly 
described and symbolically (3-dimensionally) pictured in my ABC theory of 
cosmogenesis. See:
<http://members.aol.com/leonmaurer/Chakrafield-spherical-col_3.jpg>

All these fractal involved LM and DM fields originate analogously from every 
ubiquitous zero-point center of ZPE throughout the spacetime continuum... 
Starting as a single ray of G-force radiated from the spin-momentum on each 
spherical polar axis, that fractally involves in a Mobius-Klein spiral vortex path 
and weaves the initial spherical "hyperspace" field manifolds -- like bubbles 
within bubbles within bubbles, etc.

Since the DARK MATTER is spinning on individual spherical axes that are 
perpendicular to the axis of LIGHT MATTER -- while they each have the same 
gravitation force and are governed by identical physical laws of QM, relativity and 
string theories -- they are entirely invisible to each other.   Also, since they 
all originate from the same ZPE source, they would ALL be potentially 
conscious, and have MINDS and MEMORIES of their own independent experiences and 
material structures ... All of which are eternally remembered in the encoded 
information stored in their zero-point "spinergy" (infinite angular spin momentum).  
This is analogous with the "information" that Stephan Hawking acknowledged 
(when he lost his bet with John Preskill) is retained in the singularity of 
every black hole, and retained in its Hawking radiation.   We might even envision 
the entire cosmos as a series of contiguous black holes ranging in size from 
sub quantum micro particles to galaxies and supernova's

As for Consciousness, in this supra-or metaphysical AND physical model...   
Its potential awareness, will, etc., can only be originated from and considered 
as the fundamental inherent aspect of that ineffable EMPTINESS of absolute 
primal SPACE located at the center origin of every series of multidimensional, 
fractally involved ZPE fields in the Planck vacuum or HYPERSPACE... That -- 
being oof near infinite frequency-energy orders of vibrating lines (SUPERSTRINGS) 
of G-force *Spinergy* (infinite angular spin momentum) -- would have to be 
the media carrying the modulated and encoded holographic INFORMATION or 
"Contents of Consciousness" on their surfaces (MEMBRANES). 

Thus, these fractal involved or enfolded hyperspace fields could constitute 
the MIND and "Long Term" (lifetime and archetypal) MEMORY of every sentient 
being -- which, in humans, are efferently and afferently transformable 
electrodynamically and coenergetically (inductive resonantly) by the brain's EM field, 
and directly *detectable* by the nonlocal, yet *entangled* zero-points of 
subjectively perceptive and objectively (willfully) directive consciousness.   This 
is why we can experience a pain as being located at a specific point in the 
body, and view the world as if it were projected from a single point in the 
center of our head. 
> 
> To assume that MIND is in ** Perhaps, the "hyperspace fields enfolded within
> the Planck vacuum," that gauge and other quantum theories can't seem to
> reach** is definitely invoking metaphysics. Eventually, all such views lead
> to a repetitions of false assumptions such as: 1. that MIND is non-physical,
> though hyperspace is physical.  2. So, it is beyond the reach of physical
> theories. 3. Only mystics can SENSE it!! 4. There must be a sixth sense to
> do this. 5. Mystics of the East have perfected that.
> 
LM: Nonsense.   These are only "assumptions" in your own mind.   Such fields 
are NOT beyond the reach of physical theories, since they can easily be 
described by Maxwell-Ampere-Faraday equations.   And have also been described from a 
quantum POV by Boris Iskakov's "microlepton" theory as well as other 
"tachyon" and "axion" theories...   Just as they are described geometrically and 
topologically by my ABC theory coupled with the multidimensional mathematics of 
string and M theories, Calibi-Yau manifolds, Kaluza-Klien space, etc.   

The only "Assumption" in my ABC theory, is that Consciousness is a 
fundamental and inherent aspect of the underlying "Singularity" of primal or ground 
SPACE that underlies all metaphysical and physical spacetime and matter.   

Therefore, how can you separate metaphysics from convenional physics?   Or, 
deny that consciousness per se, which cannot be explained by physics in its 
current paradigm, would.logically   have to be the inherent static nature of 
ubiquitous, absolute primal SPACE?    How else could we 3-dimensionally reference 
every point in our body in exact spatial correlation with every point in the 
3-dimensional objective world matrix?   
> 
> These are all unwarranted, unproven, unscientific, non-physical and
> therefore non-sensical assumptions. They clutter the mind or box it in. The
> net result is ** the blind leading the blind**. That is no ad hominem attack
> on the Mystics, just plain simple facts.
> 
LM: Since your facts, and your presumption that metrically empirical physical 
matter is all that exists -- are purely imaginary -- all your rantings 
against any theories of consciousness and mind that seem to confirm the observations 
of the so called "mystics" -- are just barking up a tree.... Much like the 
similar squawks of the classical physicists who couldn't face Einstein's counter 
intuitive relativity theories ... That the ancient Hermetists and esoteric 
Buddhists already knew (but couldn't describe empirically), long before Galileo 
invented science.   Therefore it's the limited thinking of dyed in the wool 
eliminative materialists that boxes in the mind, and its they who are "the blind 
leading the blind." 

In spite of your denials, grounded on nothing but personal opinion, and anti 
religious fervor, all such fundamental truths can be verified -- 
introspectively in deep meditative altered states of consciousness -- with sufficient 
knowledge of the techniques and long practice.   But, nevertheless, no part of the 
ABC holographic paradigm theory of cosmogenesis of the origin of consciousness 
and matter was derived from or depends on such subjective observations... 
Although they have been confirmed repeatedly by countless meditative thinkers and 
sages since ancient times.   Such repeated and compared observations could be 
just as scientifically valid, as any similarly subjective observations, and 
renormalized mathematics of conventional physics.

Best wishes,
Leon Maurer
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Philip Benjamin
> 
> >From: LeonMaurer@aol.com
> >To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> >Subject: Princeton physicists connect string theory with established 
> physics 
> >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:41:41 EDT
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >http://physorg.com/news97339219.html
> >Princeton physicists connect string theory with established physics 
> >  String theory, simultaneously one of the most promising and controversial
> >ideas in modern physics, may be more capable of helping probe the inner 
> >workings of subatomic particles than was previously thought, according 
> >to a team of Princeton University scientists.
> >
> >The theory has been highly praised by some physicists for its potential to
> >forge the long-sought link between gravity and the forces that dominate
> >within the atomic nucleus. But the theory -- which posits that all 
> subatomic
> >particles are actually tiny "strings" that vibrate in different ways -- has 
> also
> >drawn criticism for being untestable in the laboratory, and perhaps 
> impossible
> >to connect with real-world phenomena.
> >
> >However, the Princeton researchers have found new mathematical evidence
> >that some of string theory's predictions mesh closely with those of a well-
> >respected body of physics called "gauge theory," which has been 
> demonstrated
> >to underlie the interactions among quarks and gluons, the vanishingly small
> >objects that combine to form protons, neutrons and other, more exotic 
> subatomic
> >particles. The discovery, say the physicists, could open up a host of uses 
> for string
> >theory in attacking practical physics problems.
> >
> >"These problems include describing the interactions among the quarks within
> >everyday atomic nuclei," said Igor Klebanov, the Thomas D. Jones Professor 
> of
> >Mathematical Physics at Princeton and an author of a recent paper on the
> >subject. "We have previously been able to study these interactions in 
> detail
> >only at the high-energy conditions within particle accelerators, but with 
> these
> >findings we may be able to describe what's happening inside the atoms that
> >make up rocks and trees. We cannot do so yet, but it appears that the math 
> of
> >string theory could be what we need to bridge this gap."
> >
> >The team's paper appears in the March 30 issue of the scientific journal
> >Physical Review Letters. Klebanov's co-authors include graduate student 
> Marcus
> >Benna and postdoctoral fellows Sergio Benvenuti and Antonello Scardicchio.
> >
> >For Klebanov, the findings represent a major success in the decades-old
> >search for connections between strings and gauge theory, the latter of
> >which -- to a particle physicist -- lays out the established laws that 
> describe 
> >all ordinary matter.
> >
> >The many facets of gauge theory add up to a well-established and coherent
> >picture of the behaviors of quarks and gluons, which largely compose most
> >familiar forms of matter. Decades of observations at particle accelerators
> >have shownthat gauge theory accounts for quark and gluon behavior quite 
> >well, at least at the very high energy levels that exist when two isolated 
> >particles are smashed together at nearly the speed of light.
> >
> >At these high energies, the interaction force holding the quarks together
> >grows weak, and scientists can break particles apart to observe their
> >constituents. Unfortunately, these observations -- and even gauge theory 
> >itself when applied at these high energies -- do not reveal as much as 
> physicists 
> >would like about everyday matter traveling at everyday speeds.
> >
> >"The sad truth is that when these quarks and gluons start binding together
> >into protons and neutrons, this interaction force grows very strong, and it
> >is hard to use gauge theory to understand it," Klebanov said. "Basically, 
> to
> >understand how we are actually made of all this stuff, we need to 
> understand
> > quark and gluon behavior when the interaction force gets strong."
> >
> >In the 1970s, physicists posited that when gauge theory loses its power to
> >describe particle behavior as quarks bond together, string theory might be
> >able to step in and handle the job. What string theorists needed was some
> >indication that both theories were headed in the same direction.
> >
> >The lucky break came in 1997 and early 1998 when a precise relation between
> >the two was conjectured in the work of Princeton physicists Alexander 
> Polyakov,
> >Steven Gubser and Klebanov, as well as the Institute for Advanced Study's
> >Juan Maldacena and Edward Witten. However, more work to explain this
> >connection was needed.
> >
> >"It was as though our understanding was a road that started at the point
> >where the interaction between quarks was weak," Klebanov said. "We could
> >
> >follow it for a few miles through greater and greater interaction 
> strengths, 
> >but then it stopped before reaching the great strengths that exist in the 
> >atoms of rocks and trees -- the section of road that string theory 
> describes."
> >
> >Between the two road sections lay a seemingly unbridgeable mathematical
> >gulf, and Klebanov had little more than a hunch that there was any smooth
> >transition between gauge and string theory.
> >
> >"In simple terms, what we really wanted was some indication that such a
> >smooth transition exists, which would hint that the two sections of road 
> were 
> >parts of the same route," Klebanov said. "But we were having trouble 
> finding 
> >any sort of connection at all."
> >
> >String theory, for all its mathematical beauty, once again seemed too
> >difficult to test -- until Niklas Beisert, an assistant professor of 
> physics at
> >Princeton, published a paper in late October of last year containing an
> >equation that turned out to be a crucial piece of the puzzle.
> >
> >  "Beisert and his collaborators made an inspired guess based on 
> sophisticated
> >notions of gauge theory behavior," said Curtis Callan, the James S. 
> McDonnell
> >Distinguished University Professor of Physics at Princeton. "Their equation
> >allowed Igor and his colleagues to work out the 'transition' between the 
> two
> >regimes. They demonstrated that it exactly matched string theory's
> >predictions at the strong interaction limit. That was the hard part."
> >
> >Beisert said that his team's work provided a useful abstract proof of the
> >transition between weak and strong interaction strength, but that numerical
> >evidence had been lacking.
> >
> >"The result of Klebanov's group gives beautiful numerical evidence for the
> >validity of our proposal," said Beisert, who is also junior research group
> >leader at the Albert Einstein Institute in Potsdam, Germany. "All these 
> studies 
> >now make us sure that string theory and well-established gauge theory are
> >indeed two sides of the same coin."
> >
> >Lance Dixon, a physicist at the Stanford Linear Accelerator, said the new
> >paper by Klebanov's team provided a vital cross-check of the Beisert team's
> >equation, which rested on a few insightful but unproven assumptions.
> >
> >"The work by Igor Klebanov and his group really succeeded in removing all
> >lingering doubts about the equation's validity," said Dixon, whose work
> >provided other evidence in favor of the Beisert team's proposal. "The 
> search 
> >is on now for a broad web of connections linking the high-energy behavior 
> >of quarks and gluons to that of strings, a web in which the first strand 
> was 
> >laid down by (both teams') work."
> >
> >Klebanov, while noting many other scientists' contributions, credits 
> Beisert
> >for "providing the techniques and writing down this fantastic equation," 
> and
> >said that his own team's findings were possible largely due to the Beisert
> >team's paper.
> >
> >"That a particular kind of gauge theory is in some sense 'exactly solvable'
> >realizes a longstanding dream," Klebanov said. "This is almost like coming
> >to a gap you expected to find between two sections of road and finding that
> >someone else has built such a smooth connection between them that you 
> >don't notice it when you drive over it."
> >
> >This is not to say that string theory is likely to become accepted as an
> >overall explanation of subatomic physics anytime soon. Klebanov's team 
> >has found a bridge between established physics and a mathematical theory, 
> >which is only one step toward solid experimental proof that the world is
> >actually constructed of tiny vibrating strings. And even this bridge 
> applies a 
> >facet to only one of gauge theory. Bridging this gap for other facets will 
> be 
> >necessary to enable physicists to understand fundamentally the interiors 
> >of the protons and neutrons that make up the earth beneath our feet.

> >
> >"I think there is hope that other facets of gauge theory are amenable to
> >similar treatment," Klebanov said. "We don't know for sure if we can use 
> this
> >discovery to address other problems, but at least we now have new methods
> >for bridging the gap between the weakly and strongly interacting regimes of 
> the
> >gauge theory."
> >
> >Source: Princeton University

> >__________________________________
> >
> >Next step... The possible connection of string theory with the linkages
> >between mind, memory, brain and consciousness.   Perhaps, the 
> >"hyperspace" fields enfolded within the Planck vacuum, that gauge and 
> >other quantum theories can't seem to reach, could be that linkage ... 
> >Especially, since sensory and memory analog image information 
> >experienced and interpreted directly by consciousness may necessarily 
> >have to be carried as modulated holographic wave interference patterns 
> >by such higher order fields -- if nonlocal awareness and will, as
> >fundamental qualities of primal Space, are centered in the ubiquitous
> >zero-point energy source in the quantum foam.   Much food for thought 
> >here.
> >
> >Feedback on how these new findings might radically change how we view and
> >explain self, witness, responsive, and creative consciousness and its
> >cognitive mechanisms are welcome.
> >
> >Leon Maurer
> 




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