Theos-Talk Archives (September 2007 Message tt00019)

Here is a good writeup: See url http://www.tphta.ws/TPH_WHIT.HTM

What is Truth? - H P Blavatsky
 Blavatsky:Collected Writings
(Lucifer, Vol. I, No. 6, February, 1888, pp. 425-433)
mkr

On 8/31/07, Scribe <scribe@rs.org> wrote:
>
>   I would interpret that as 'truth is unalloyed', which is a standard
> theosophical concept. In other words, truth is One, or The One. Every
> emanation or differentiation from [the] One fractures, or divides, the
> perfect One and incorporates or introduces that much more 'un-truth', or
> 'unperfection'. I guess you could say that 'truth' is 'God' [the 'One']
> and 'God' [the'One'] is 'truth', and as far as one is away from the 'One'
> is one that far from truth [because there is that much imperfection].
>
> Scribe
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cass Silva
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World What is truth
>
> Hi John,
> You are so intellectual that I haven't a clue what you are talking about.
> Truth is the absence of error, which means it must apply to all men at all
> times. I guess we have to understand Error to know truth?
>
> Cass
>
> Augoeides-222@comcast.net <Augoeides-222%40comcast.net> wrote:
> Christine and all,
> Yes, many views of "Truth" the final Primal Religion of H. P. B. ! Here we
> all are participants in the inescapable "relativity of truth" which
> reflexive of the apparant creation is subject to imperfection the hallmark
> of he secondary worlds. Here Absolutes are forever unobtainable like the
> value of the circle "PI" it extends to infinity but never is perfected. Once
> many years ago in the very phenomenal UFO Case while the Experiencer was in
> full Projection and the "Vessel of Light" was the presented Personality I
> asked the question directly "What is Truth?" I was presented with the most
> succinct definition without the slightest lag or hesitation "Truth is the
> absence of error." Well, I at first never had this definition clubbed into
> my forehead in quite the same manner before, and my reaction was this is so
> simplistic! But it was at the same time the most correct Philosophical and
> Spiritual definition in the most succinct form, which in the Hindu is valued
> for best and ideal
> co
> mmunication of essential realities. The Absence of Error is a Doctrinal
> cornerstone that can define the "Absolute" of the Mahatma's and the S.D.
> postulate, as proposed by Blavatsky and the Mahatma's. If we can consider
> where this condition of "Absence of Error" in perfected form resides, then
> it is a process of the sieve of the Philosophers. One must in the end admit
> there can be only one residence and habitation of the Transcendental State
> of the Innate Quintessence of Primordial Truth where not a single
> imperfection of Jnana is found. And that is what they called the Absolute
> Uncreate where Truth is The Virgin Wisdom. The Primordial Native
> Consciousness is the unmarked, unchanged, essential spark or ray so to
> speak, that we each have participation in and of, even while the secondary
> instruments of mind , perceptions, organs of sense have sway in relative
> degree during our individual pilgrimages in the immeasurable streams and
> rivers of our journeys. It is the Alpha and
> Omega. Th
> e AUM. The Pure Living Water and Solvent of Life without end. We have
> Origin of Truth Beyond the Beyond and we return to the same. It is the
> Fathers Will that his children return to him, stated in a Hermetic
> aphroiaphorisms Truth that facilitates the expansion and contractions of
> appearance and withdrawal. Truth is a necessary Consort. Karma itself is a
> contrast to Truth itself. "Truth is the Absence of Error" is succinct but is
> also pregnant and profound.
>
> Best regards,
> John
> ----------- Original message --------------
> From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com<christinaleestemaker%40yahoo.com>>
>
>
> Hi
> Good question
> I think truth can be in the middle of the circle
> and the circle means a lot of possibilities in which is one essence
> of that.
> In other words Circle can be the whole universe within all
> its potentions.As a hologram.
>
> All in one and the one in All
>
> Christina
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Antonio/Tony None
> <spirit777child@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm new to this group so please go easy on my ignorance.
> > I was just wondering after having read quite a few emails from
> the group what is the truth.
> > Now i know some people will say the truth is what you apply to
> your own life that makes it better for you to live. Others will
> enforce their opinions on me. All i would like to know is an honest
> account of the God vs Devil myth.
> > The Bible says that in the last days Lucifer will blind the world
> with his light and that it will be so poerful that many will become
> mesmerised.
> > Is this light not the Occult phiosophies spoken of on here each
> day?
> > I am just worried that if i start believing in all the
> philosopies that stem from the occult world that the God of the bible
> will condemn me. I know some of you would probably say that the God
> of the bible is the evil controlling force but what if that is what
> Lucifer wants you to belive? I hope you can see where im coming from
> and the issue that perplexes me.
> > I would appreciate some help on this matter.
> >
> > Many thanks
> > Spirit.
> >
> > adelasie <adelasie@...> wrote:
> > mkr,
> >
> > Keep that hope alive! It's so easy in these horrendous times to get
> > discouraged, but we may be sure it is true, "The darker the
> shadows,
> > the brighter the Light." The thing is that the shadows are a lot
> > easier for us to see than the Light, blinded as we are by the veils
> > of Maya. Nevertheless, the occultist can see past the illusion to
> the
> > many millions of examples of the nobility of the human spirit, and
> to
> > the tremendous help that is available to all from inner planes, as
> > long as we try, in our own small ways, to do the right thing. We
> all
> > know what that is, don't we? It is also said, and truly, that it is
> > darkest just before the dawn. The more I surf the net the more I
> > realize that there are huge numbers of people all over the world
> > working for our mutual benefit and salvation, and since every
> effort
> > for good helps the whole, what a wonderful encouragement it is to
> > have access to the knowledge that we are not alone in our efforts.
> >
> > Keep the faith!
> > Adelasie
> >
> > On 29 Aug 2007 at 10:45, M K Ramadoss wrote:
> >
> > > Adelasie:
> > > I agree.
> > > One of the important effects of the communication revolution that
> is taking
> > > place is that light shines on the wrong doings that go around the
> world.
> > > with cell phones, picture phones and video, wrongful and cruel and
> > > distructive activities get recorded and broadcast world wide even
> though
> > > world powers would very much keep them under wraps and misinform
> the people
> > > in the name of security and future welfare and sacrifice for the
> country and
> > > the world. It is my hope that we all will see a more peaceful
> world in our
> > > life times if the world does not get destroyed by human made
> accident.
> > >
> > > mkr
> > >
> > > On 8/29/07, adelasie <adelasie@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > MKR,
> > > >
> > > > From the point of view of occultism, the internet can be seen
> as a
> > > > huge step forward in humanity's development. Our current Kali
> Yuga,
> > > > technological/intellectual cycle has almost destroyed us so
> far, as
> > > > humanity has relentlessly used its talents for war and
> aggression,
> > > > and selfish gain and corruption, with the resulting threastened
> > > > destruction of our own habitat. But the revolution in electrical
> > > > communication (using electricity, one of the 49 creative fires,
> > > > however stepped down, of the Godhead) has provided us with the
> means
> > > > to actully contact our brothers and sisters globally on a much
> larger
> > > > scale than was ever before possible. It is almost as if we have
> > > > invented a prelude or corollary to telepathic communication, a
> > > > virtual mental stream of humanity. How we use this is of course
> > > > according to our ability, but the potential is enormous, in
> terms of
> > > > advancing the consciousness of the Unity of all Life.
> > > >
> > > > Adelasie
> > > >
> > > > On 29 Aug 2007 at 8:25, M K Ramadoss wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You are right. From the day I saw Internet several years ago,
> I foresaw
> > > > the
> > > > > power of the technology and its potential for the future due
> to my
> > > > having
> > > > > grown up with computer technology. As a tool to provide and
> distribute
> > > > > information, it is unsurpassed, as can be seen what is
> happening
> > > > everyday.
> > > > > It is a pity that many of the older folks active in
> theosophical
> > > > matters,
> > > > > with a few rare exceptions such as late Dallas, are still
> sticking their
> > > > > heads in the sand like ostriches and not actively making use
> of the
> > > > Internet
> > > > > to disseminate the message of theosophy. It does not matter.
> The
> > > > Juggernaut
> > > > > is moving and either you get on it or be left behind for
> good.. My only
> > > > hope
> > > > > is to see lists like BN and this one to have a five and six
> digit
> > > > > circulation soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > mkr
> > > > >
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