Theos-Talk Archives (August 2007 Message tt00423)

I would interpret that as 'truth is unalloyed', which is a standard theosophical concept. In other words, truth is One, or The One. Every emanation or differentiation from [the] One fractures, or divides, the perfect One and incorporates or introduces that much more 'un-truth', or 'unperfection'. I guess you could say that 'truth' is 'God' [the 'One'] and 'God' [the'One'] is 'truth', and as far as one is away from the 'One' is one that far from truth [because there is that much imperfection].

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cass Silva 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:29 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World What is truth


  Hi John,
  You are so intellectual that I haven't a clue what you are talking about. Truth is the absence of error, which means it must apply to all men at all times. I guess we have to understand Error to know truth?

  Cass

  Augoeides-222@comcast.net wrote:
  Christine and all,
  Yes, many views of "Truth" the final Primal Religion of H. P. B. ! Here we all are participants in the inescapable "relativity of truth" which reflexive of the apparant creation is subject to imperfection the hallmark of he secondary worlds. Here Absolutes are forever unobtainable like the value of the circle "PI" it extends to infinity but never is perfected. Once many years ago in the very phenomenal UFO Case while the Experiencer was in full Projection and the "Vessel of Light" was the presented Personality I asked the question directly "What is Truth?" I was presented with the most succinct definition without the slightest lag or hesitation "Truth is the absence of error." Well, I at first never had this definition clubbed into my forehead in quite the same manner before, and my reaction was this is so simplistic! But it was at the same time the most correct Philosophical and Spiritual definition in the most succinct form, which in the Hindu is valued for best and ideal
  co
  mmunication of essential realities. The Absence of Error is a Doctrinal cornerstone that can define the "Absolute" of the Mahatma's and the S.D. postulate, as proposed by Blavatsky and the Mahatma's. If we can consider where this condition of "Absence of Error" in perfected form resides, then it is a process of the sieve of the Philosophers. One must in the end admit there can be only one residence and habitation of the Transcendental State of the Innate Quintessence of Primordial Truth where not a single imperfection of Jnana is found. And that is what they called the Absolute Uncreate where Truth is The Virgin Wisdom. The Primordial Native Consciousness is the unmarked, unchanged, essential spark or ray so to speak, that we each have participation in and of, even while the secondary instruments of mind , perceptions, organs of sense have sway in relative degree during our individual pilgrimages in the immeasurable streams and rivers of our journeys. It is the Alpha and
  Omega. Th
  e AUM. The Pure Living Water and Solvent of Life without end. We have Origin of Truth Beyond the Beyond and we return to the same. It is the Fathers Will that his children return to him, stated in a Hermetic aphroiaphorisms Truth that facilitates the expansion and contractions of appearance and withdrawal. Truth is a necessary Consort. Karma itself is a contrast to Truth itself. "Truth is the Absence of Error" is succinct but is also pregnant and profound.

  Best regards,
  John
  ----------- Original message -------------- 
  From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@yahoo.com> 

  Hi 
  Good question
  I think truth can be in the middle of the circle
  and the circle means a lot of possibilities in which is one essence 
  of that.
  In other words Circle can be the whole universe within all
  its potentions.As a hologram.

  All in one and the one in All

  Christina

  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Antonio/Tony None 
  <spirit777child@...> wrote:
  >
  > Hi all, 
  > 
  > I'm new to this group so please go easy on my ignorance.
  > I was just wondering after having read quite a few emails from 
  the group what is the truth.
  > Now i know some people will say the truth is what you apply to 
  your own life that makes it better for you to live. Others will 
  enforce their opinions on me. All i would like to know is an honest 
  account of the God vs Devil myth. 
  > The Bible says that in the last days Lucifer will blind the world 
  with his light and that it will be so poerful that many will become 
  mesmerised. 
  > Is this light not the Occult phiosophies spoken of on here each 
  day?
  > I am just worried that if i start believing in all the 
  philosopies that stem from the occult world that the God of the bible 
  will condemn me. I know some of you would probably say that the God 
  of the bible is the evil controlling force but what if that is what 
  Lucifer wants you to belive? I hope you can see where im coming from 
  and the issue that perplexes me.
  > I would appreciate some help on this matter.
  > 
  > Many thanks
  > Spirit.
  > 
  > adelasie <adelasie@...> wrote:
  > mkr,
  > 
  > Keep that hope alive! It's so easy in these horrendous times to get 
  > discouraged, but we may be sure it is true, "The darker the 
  shadows, 
  > the brighter the Light." The thing is that the shadows are a lot 
  > easier for us to see than the Light, blinded as we are by the veils 
  > of Maya. Nevertheless, the occultist can see past the illusion to 
  the 
  > many millions of examples of the nobility of the human spirit, and 
  to 
  > the tremendous help that is available to all from inner planes, as 
  > long as we try, in our own small ways, to do the right thing. We 
  all 
  > know what that is, don't we? It is also said, and truly, that it is 
  > darkest just before the dawn. The more I surf the net the more I 
  > realize that there are huge numbers of people all over the world 
  > working for our mutual benefit and salvation, and since every 
  effort 
  > for good helps the whole, what a wonderful encouragement it is to 
  > have access to the knowledge that we are not alone in our efforts. 
  > 
  > Keep the faith!
  > Adelasie
  > 
  > On 29 Aug 2007 at 10:45, M K Ramadoss wrote:
  > 
  > > Adelasie:
  > > I agree.
  > > One of the important effects of the communication revolution that 
  is taking
  > > place is that light shines on the wrong doings that go around the 
  world.
  > > with cell phones, picture phones and video, wrongful and cruel and
  > > distructive activities get recorded and broadcast world wide even 
  though
  > > world powers would very much keep them under wraps and misinform 
  the people
  > > in the name of security and future welfare and sacrifice for the 
  country and
  > > the world. It is my hope that we all will see a more peaceful 
  world in our
  > > life times if the world does not get destroyed by human made 
  accident.
  > > 
  > > mkr
  > > 
  > > On 8/29/07, adelasie <adelasie@...> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > MKR,
  > > >
  > > > From the point of view of occultism, the internet can be seen 
  as a
  > > > huge step forward in humanity's development. Our current Kali 
  Yuga,
  > > > technological/intellectual cycle has almost destroyed us so 
  far, as
  > > > humanity has relentlessly used its talents for war and 
  aggression,
  > > > and selfish gain and corruption, with the resulting threastened
  > > > destruction of our own habitat. But the revolution in electrical
  > > > communication (using electricity, one of the 49 creative fires,
  > > > however stepped down, of the Godhead) has provided us with the 
  means
  > > > to actully contact our brothers and sisters globally on a much 
  larger
  > > > scale than was ever before possible. It is almost as if we have
  > > > invented a prelude or corollary to telepathic communication, a
  > > > virtual mental stream of humanity. How we use this is of course
  > > > according to our ability, but the potential is enormous, in 
  terms of
  > > > advancing the consciousness of the Unity of all Life.
  > > >
  > > > Adelasie
  > > >
  > > > On 29 Aug 2007 at 8:25, M K Ramadoss wrote:
  > > >
  > > > > You are right. From the day I saw Internet several years ago, 
  I foresaw
  > > > the
  > > > > power of the technology and its potential for the future due 
  to my
  > > > having
  > > > > grown up with computer technology. As a tool to provide and 
  distribute
  > > > > information, it is unsurpassed, as can be seen what is 
  happening
  > > > everyday.
  > > > > It is a pity that many of the older folks active in 
  theosophical
  > > > matters,
  > > > > with a few rare exceptions such as late Dallas, are still 
  sticking their
  > > > > heads in the sand like ostriches and not actively making use 
  of the
  > > > Internet
  > > > > to disseminate the message of theosophy. It does not matter. 
  The
  > > > Juggernaut
  > > > > is moving and either you get on it or be left behind for 
  good.. My only
  > > > hope
  > > > > is to see lists like BN and this one to have a five and six 
  digit
  > > > > circulation soon.
  > > > >
  > > > > mkr
  > > > >
  > > >
  > > > 
  > > >
  > > 
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