Theos-Talk Archives (August 2007 Message tt00420)

Dear Antonio
Welcome to this old but  entirelly funcional theos-group, I hope you´ll find 
good answers, good new questions and good directions to your researches 
here.
I am from Brazil, perhaps you´re from Portugal or Mexico, I don´t know.
The truth is only one but sages came with different approaches and called it 
many names.
You´ll find it covered with misteries and objectiveness depending on the 
paths you choose.
In Cristianism you´ll find a type of Divinity called Jeovah and God, Deus, 
but very mixed with humanized views of a male God and His opposite, called 
Devil.
I sincerely do not believe in most of what the Bible states about the nature 
of God, I prefer the buddhist and Zen view because they don´t mix the divine 
with  the partial and limited view of many other religions, that mirrors 
their prophet´s faulty views.
All the views must be filtered by your awareness in order to build a 
prejudice-free point of view and starting point.
You can not, I my opiniom, believe in every "occult" philosophy, you have to 
check it deeply, there is much falseness in the philosophies and schools 
around us, but you have to develop a high sense of  mindfullness.
Internet is an open field of finding good books, good lectures, videos, much 
useful information that has t obe analized and filtered.
Antonio, mu opiniom and by my own experience, if you want to dive into the 
world of awareness, you have to leave all those old baggages full of evil 
Gods, Satanás, Lucifers, Demons and dogmas, because they will prevent you 
from growing wiser and with more mindfullness.
You can´t mix Bible´s views with western views, but you have to study the 
roots of both. Contrasts will happen of course, but that´s the path.
When you feel that you know enough to build your own renewed and dinamic 
beliefs you can also meditate and discover the truth inside yourself, in 
your inner silence.
Imho, if there is an unlimited God, that is omniscient, omnipresent,  - just 
as Thomas Merton, the trapist monk said - to dicover Him you´ll also need to 
be inlimited and omnipresent.
This means that, to discover divinity and God you´ll need to become one with 
him.
The first thing to disappear will be the Ego, because most of what is 
written about truth is ego-centered and, thus, very limited.
All occult records will state the same essence under many covers: the God 
within and in All.

Reagards
Krishtar

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----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Antonio/Tony None
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:18 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Odd times for the Odd Fellows --


  Hi all,

  I'm new to this group so please go easy on my ignorance.
  I was just wondering after having read quite a few emails from the group 
what is the truth.
  Now i know some people will say the truth is what you apply to your own 
life that makes it better for you to live. Others will enforce their 
opinions on me. All i would like to know is an honest account of the God vs 
Devil myth.
  The Bible says that in the last days Lucifer will blind the world with his 
light and that it will be so poerful that many will become mesmerised.
  Is this light not the Occult phiosophies spoken of on here each day?
  I am just worried that if i start believing in all the philosopies that 
stem from the occult world that the God of the bible will condemn me. I know 
some of you would probably say that the God of the bible is the evil 
controlling force but what if that is what Lucifer wants you to belive? I 
hope you can see where im coming from and the issue that perplexes me.
  I would appreciate some help on this matter.

  Many thanks
  Spirit.

  adelasie <adelasie@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  mkr,

  Keep that hope alive! It's so easy in these horrendous times to get
  discouraged, but we may be sure it is true, "The darker the shadows,
  the brighter the Light." The thing is that the shadows are a lot
  easier for us to see than the Light, blinded as we are by the veils
  of Maya. Nevertheless, the occultist can see past the illusion to the
  many millions of examples of the nobility of the human spirit, and to
  the tremendous help that is available to all from inner planes, as
  long as we try, in our own small ways, to do the right thing. We all
  know what that is, don't we? It is also said, and truly, that it is
  darkest just before the dawn. The more I surf the net the more I
  realize that there are huge numbers of people all over the world
  working for our mutual benefit and salvation, and since every effort
  for good helps the whole, what a wonderful encouragement it is to
  have access to the knowledge that we are not alone in our efforts.

  Keep the faith!
  Adelasie

  On 29 Aug 2007 at 10:45, M K Ramadoss wrote:

  > Adelasie:
  > I agree.
  > One of the important effects of the communication revolution that is 
taking
  > place is that light shines on the wrong doings that go around the world.
  > with cell phones, picture phones and video, wrongful and cruel and
  > distructive activities get recorded and broadcast world wide even though
  > world powers would very much keep them under wraps and misinform the 
people
  > in the name of security and future welfare and sacrifice for the country 
and
  > the world. It is my hope that we all will see a more peaceful world in 
our
  > life times if the world does not get destroyed by human made accident.
  >
  > mkr
  >
  > On 8/29/07, adelasie <adelasie@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  > >
  > > MKR,
  > >
  > > From the point of view of occultism, the internet can be seen as a
  > > huge step forward in humanity's development. Our current Kali Yuga,
  > > technological/intellectual cycle has almost destroyed us so far, as
  > > humanity has relentlessly used its talents for war and aggression,
  > > and selfish gain and corruption, with the resulting threastened
  > > destruction of our own habitat. But the revolution in electrical
  > > communication (using electricity, one of the 49 creative fires,
  > > however stepped down, of the Godhead) has provided us with the means
  > > to actully contact our brothers and sisters globally on a much larger
  > > scale than was ever before possible. It is almost as if we have
  > > invented a prelude or corollary to telepathic communication, a
  > > virtual mental stream of humanity. How we use this is of course
  > > according to our ability, but the potential is enormous, in terms of
  > > advancing the consciousness of the Unity of all Life.
  > >
  > > Adelasie
  > >
  > > On 29 Aug 2007 at 8:25, M K Ramadoss wrote:
  > >
  > > > You are right. From the day I saw Internet several years ago, I 
foresaw
  > > the
  > > > power of the technology and its potential for the future due to my
  > > having
  > > > grown up with computer technology. As a tool to provide and 
distribute
  > > > information, it is unsurpassed, as can be seen what is happening
  > > everyday.
  > > > It is a pity that many of the older folks active in theosophical
  > > matters,
  > > > with a few rare exceptions such as late Dallas, are still sticking 
their
  > > > heads in the sand like ostriches and not actively making use of the
  > > Internet
  > > > to disseminate the message of theosophy. It does not matter. The
  > > Juggernaut
  > > > is moving and either you get on it or be left behind for good.. My 
only
  > > hope
  > > > is to see lists like BN and this one to have a five and six digit
  > > > circulation soon.
  > > >
  > > > mkr
  > > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  >
  >
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  >
  >

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