Theos-Talk Archives (August 2007 Message tt00402)

Now I understand where you are coming from. It was the christian church that
tried to kill Theosophy and Theosophical Society in India. I also do not
know, in India,  if the christian churchs are still surreptitiously working
to undermine the theosophical society and theosophy in India and if so it
will be no surprise to any one.

Also, there have been discussions here how to reconcile the fact that LCC
does not allow women ordained as priests and have not seen any women bishops
either. As a theosophist who believes and supports the first object, it is
very difficult to reconcile this discrimination.

As for attendance in services, many many orthodox and staunch Hindus do not
go to the temples regularly like the many christians do on Sundays. I even
had an encounter with a leading fundamentalist politician in the town when
the politician stated and Sunday is god's day and would not care to talk
about other matters. I was about tell the politician, if this be so, the
local police and fire stations and hospitals should be shut down so that all
can spend the god's day in church related activities.

My friend, you are mistaken about Hinduism and the underlying life and
vitality. I have lived for several decades in India and have seen it first
hand.

mkr

On 8/27/07, Anand <AnandGholap@anandgholap.org> wrote:
>
>
> > *Many may not agree with your feeling that religions like Hinduism have
> > become defunct. *
> > **
> > *If that be so, then it may be time for all theosophists to consider
> > converting to Christian religion and hope to get salvation thru
> Jesus, as
> > many christians believe. In spite of the push by theosophical
> leaders of the
> > past to encourage LCC, none of the Hindu theosophist leaders have
> disavowed
> > Hinduism and converted to LCC, and also changed their names to a
> christian
> > name.
>
> Many Presidents of the TS and leading figures like Olcott, Blavatsky,
> Sinnett, G.R.S Mead, Annie Besant, Leadbeater, G.S.Arundale, Geoffrey
> Hodson were already Christians. That makes one wonder.
> Hindus generally don't get converted, as can be seen from the fact
> that there are only 1.4 per cent Christians in India. Despite close
> contact with Christian Theosophical leaders, Hindu leading members in
> TS did not become Christian.
> Conversion to Christianity does not require them to change their name.
> In India are many Christians (including me) who have Hindu-sounding
> names.
>
> >So one wonders if the Hindu theosophical leaders still consider there
> > is a lot of life left in Hinduism and has a lot to offer to the rest
> of the
> > world.*
>
> When I observe conditions in India, I find that Hindu religion has
> become defunct. I don't think Hindu leaders consider there is life in
> Hindu religion, but they don't generally convert to other religion
> also. I attended annual convention at Adyar many years back. That time
> around 1100 Hindus and around 70 Christians were present at Adyar for
> convention. Out of eleven hundred Hindus, only fifteen Hindus attended
> Hindu Congregation Worship. Christian mass was attended by around
> fourty out of seventy Christians. These figures indicate interest of
> people in their respective religions.
> Conditions in India show me that Hindu religion has become defunct.
>
> >
> > *May be it is a topic we can present to theosophists at large and
> get some
> > feedback as to what they all feel. This is important because, the
> > theosophist population is shrinking in that as % of world population
> it has
> > been reducing for a long time.*
>
> C. Jinarajadasa knew that Theosophy and Krishnamurti's speeches were
> different. So he did not promote Krishnamurti's speeches in the TS.
> But later N. Sri Ram and Radha thought Krishnamurti's speeches are
> part of Theosophy. They promoted Krishnamurti's teaching in the TS.
> Few people were interested in this new kind of Theosophy promoted by
> N. Sri Ram and Radha. That resulted in fall of membership (as per cent
> of world's population) and losing of interest in Theosophy.
>
> > Also, as theosophists, we would not be satisfied with single source
> > information on the occult matters, because the source could be wrong
> in many
> > matters and multiple sources give us certain confidence in the
> accuracy of
> > the facts. But such multiple sources are few and far between. These are
> > issues of great importance to inquiring theosophists because, blind
> > following of anyone will not help anyone in the long run.*
>
> Yes, these are very complicated issues. There are required occultists
> of very high caliber to elaborate on difficult topics.
>
> Anand Gholap
>
>  
>


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