Theos-Talk Archives (August 2007 Message tt00072)

Hello Frank
  Have you been sworn to secrecy on the name?  Why are you playing blind man's bluff? You are not talking about Francia LaDue are you.
  Cass
  

frank_reitemeyer <dzyan@online.de> wrote:
          In 1897-98 a visible teacher appeared to the outer world and even 
most of the theosophists did not know the teacher.
Very interesting.

Although the teacher was there for many years, most theosophists 
remained ignorant, except HPB's London lay chelas, of which many 
recognized their new teacher.
Some, like Alice L. Cleather did not accept the new teacher, because 
a new method of training and conduct was used to meet the new 
circumstances.

But that is the karma of every new teacher, which must change the 
outre form. Chelas not fit for progress stick on the form and judge 
not from the spirit.

Frank

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
>
> So who was it in 1898?
> Cass
> 
> Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
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> Who was it Frank?
> Cass
> 
> Frank Reitemeyer <dzyan@...> wrote:
> It is clear that Judge was no visible teacher and that Besant was 
no teacher at all.
> Theosophical history shows that a visible teacher who re-united the 
ES with the TS came back not until a seven years trial period after 
Blavatsky's death in 1891.
> One sign of the visible teacher who the building of a city and a 
mystery school in the West as fulfillment of HPB's highest hopes.
> Frank
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: danielhcaldwell 
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 8:13 PM
> Subject: Theos-World How did Judge & Besant view 
their "Successorship" in 1891??
> 
> How did William Q. Judge & Annie Besant
> view their "Successorship" in 1891????
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I give BELOW relevant portions from the E.S.T. circular of 1891
> issued AFTER H.P. Blavatsky's death. These are the words of William 
> Q. Judge and Annie Besant to all members of HPB's esoteric school.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> ... it is our duty, as the two selected by H.P.B. as her agents and
> representatives after her departure, to specially speak to each one
> of you respecting the duty laid on the School by her retirement from
> the visible control of its affairs. The future of this body depends
> on the way in which this test of steadfastness and loyalty is 
endured
> by the members collectively and individually....
> 
> Consider the position of the School: we are NO LONGER a band of
> students taught by A VISIBLE TEACHER; we are a band of students
> mutually interdependent, forced to rely on each other for our
> usefulness and our progress, until our very brotherliness in mutual
> help shall draw A VISIBLE TEACHER BACK AMONG US. H.P.B. remains one
> of our Heads though H.P. Blavatsky is 'dead,' and the Heads of the
> School have not withdrawn Their guidance in withdrawing the presence
> chosen to represent Them for a time on which we have rejoiced to
> lean. . . .
> 
> We who write to you claim over you no authority save such as she
> delegated to us. We are your fellow students, chosen by her - the
> Messenger of the Masters of Wisdom - as Their channels to the 
measure
> of our ability, during this period of darkness....
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> 
> I call your attention to the words above that I have put in CAPS.
> 
> The above material has been extracted from my book titled
> ESOTERIC PAPERS OF MADAME BLAVATSKY, pp. 325-334.
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/hpbesotericpapers.htm
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
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