Theos-Talk Archives (July 2007 Message tt00477)

Dear Duane

Thank you for your important clarification. As you may know, Atma 
alludes to SELF in Vedanta and Theosophy, something untenable in 
Buddhism when relating to the highest state.

Kind regards
Nigel

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Duane Carpenter 
<monad_monad_monad@...> wrote:
>
>   Dear Nigel
>   Thank you for your question. 
>   Perhaps I should have said that some of the emerging occult 
schools here in the west that have been strongly influenced by 
certain Tibetan Schools of Buddhism indicate the importance of 
intelligent love as a precursor to Atmic comprehension.I ascribe to 
no school or particular lineage and apologize for any 
oversimplifications.
>   Blessings D-
> 
>    
>   nhcareyta <nhcareyta@...> wrote:
>           Dear Duane
> May I interject with a question.
> 
> You write, "This truth can be seen in some
> schools of Buddhism as the unfolding of Atma or Will through 
Buddhi, 
> Higher mind
> and Love."
> 
> Would you kindly advise which school of Buddhism recognises Atma 
and 
> Buddhi?
> 
> Thank you
> Regards
> Nigel 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Duane Carpenter 
> <monad_monad_monad@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Pablo
> > Kundalini has an active as well as a passive manifestation 
> depending on the level of development of the student undergoing its 
> experience. For the chela in training it is mainly passive or 
latent 
> for the advanced Arhart it is fully active. When a student is in 
> training and under the watchful eye of the Master breathing 
exercises 
> can at some point become a natural part of spiritual training. HPB 
> often warns the student about premature activation of the kundalini 
> which can be the result of "forced breathing exercises" Without the 
> guidance of the Master. Kundalini in its more active state is not 
> something that most Theosophiical student should concern him or 
> herself with but will unfold according to natural law when the time 
> is right and the student has done the preliminary work of service, 
> study and most importantly opening of the Heart. When you are ready 
> and have fufilled all of the requirements for this advanced 
trainning 
> you can be assured the Master or one of his
> > senior representatives will contact you.
> > In Gnostic Christianity it is taught that no man goes to the 
> Father-Will but by way of the Sun-son Christos or love principal. 
> This truth can be seen in some schools of Buddhism as the unfolding 
> of Atma or Will through Buddhi, Higher mind and Love. If spiritual 
> love is dominate in the life of the advancing student Kundalini in 
> its active and most powerful form will spring into activity and 
rise 
> along the etheric spine central channel bringing liberation through 
> the higher head centers and Crown or thousand petal lotus. If there 
> is not sufficient love developed within the students life the 
> infamous kundalini is deflected downward and brings disaster and 
ruin 
> to the unfortunate student. Only Love-Buddhi and a purification of 
> the body, emotions and mind can insulate the student from the 
> negative side of this this awesome power. The path of discipleship 
is 
> strewn with many skulls of those attempting to speed up or thwart 
> this natural evolution or law. It is therefore
> > advised to avoid any sexual practices that promise quick and easy 
> gains spiritually as well as participating in any forced breathing 
> exercises that do not come under the stewardship and guidance of a 
> qualified teacher.
> > Blessings D-
> > 
> > 
> > Pablo Sender <pasender@> wrote:
> > In a note in the book The Voice of the Silence (Fragment 
> 1, v. 38), HPB 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > "The 'Power' and the 'World-Mother' are names given to Kundalini -
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> one 
> > of the mystic 'Yogi powers.' It is Buddhi considered as an active 
> > instead of a passive principle".
> > 
> > I cannot understand that correlation. HPB seems here to imply 
that 
> the 
> > awakening of Kundalini is the result of Buddhi acting as an 
active 
> > principle. Since Kundalini may be awakened through breathing 
> exercises, 
> > the manipulation of sexual energy and so on, does it imply that 
the 
> > spiritual intuition (Buddhi) may be awakened through 
> those "external" 
> > means?
> > 
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