Theos-Talk Archives (July 2007 Message tt00373)

Hello Cass,
If HPB was against religions, she would not have set second object for
the TS as study of comparative religions.
Also TS position is one should LIVE religions and NOT TO LEAVE religions.
Kishnamurti's speeches are asking people to through baby with the bath
water. Just because there have crept wrong ideas in religions, people
should not give up religions. Krishnamurti asks to through away ideas
of Masters, path of occultism, reading books, religions etc. 
I know according to Masters there had come much evil in all religions.
And Masters had expected that bad things would be removed by right
understanding of Theosophy, which they gave through the TS. But
Krishnamurti is asking to forget religions and also major ideas given
by Theosophy e.g. Masters, path of occultism, reading books etc. So,
Krishnamurti's views were very different from Masters, HPB, Besand and
Leadbeater.
Before the foundation of TS, world was in spiritual darkness, to much
extent. That is why Masters gave esoteric knowledge through the TS. If
people follow Krishnamurti's advice to throwall those ideas, world
will go back to the same state of ignorance which was before the
foundation of TS.

Anand 

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
>
> Anand
>   I must disagree HPB told us that these religions had been debased
and the kernel of truth at their essence had been all but destroyed by
dogma.  Krishnamurti understood this hence is reason for siding with
the Masters in their opinion that religion is at the base of most evil
in the world.  How can one compare the exoteric with the esoteric?
HPB's mission was not to unite all the religions but to show how these
religions, once pristine, became muddied.
>    
>   Regards
>   Cass
>    
>   Regards
>   Cass
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> Anand <AnandGholap@...> wrote:
>           Dear Cass, 
> Your wrote-
> > I don't agree. I believe Krishnamurti's methods complimentary to
> what HPB said. HPB says in her intro to the S.D.
> > "But it is perhaps desirable to state unequivocally that the
> teachings, however fragmentary and incomplete, contained in these
> volumes (S.D.) belong neither to the Hindu, the Zoroastrian, the
> Chaldean, nor the Egyptian religion, neither to Buddhism Islam,
> Judaism nor Christianity exclusively. The Secret Doctrine is the
> essence of all these.
> > 
> 
> Here HPB is telling that teaching in the Secrete Doctrine formed heart
> of all religions (and not just one particular religion), even though
> religions were different in outer expression. She is praising the
> religions by saying that they contained truth, and that truth is in
> essence the Secrete Doctrine.
> Krishnamurti's position was exactly opposite. He asks people to ditch
> all religions, including Blavatsky's Secrete Doctrine. According to
> Krishnamurti all religions and all books are obstacles. This was
> Krishnamurti's position, when his own organization was printing his
> many books, and earning money by sale of those books.
> 
> > So Krishnamurt and HPB agree that it is a waste of time to study
> comparative religions unless one is studying the essence of that
> religion and not the dogma.
> > 
> 
> HPB did not say study of comparative religions as waste of time.
> Second object for TS was fixed by her as promotion of study of
> comparative religions. 
> Krishnamurti taught exactly opposite. He asked to throw away scriptures.
> 
> Anand 
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