Theos-Talk Archives (April 2007 Message tt00030)

Ralph,

Thank you for your taking the time to read my ABC web page and for your 
welcome comments.   After more than ten years of exposure on the various 
consciousness study forums, very few have gone as deeply into it as you seem to have, 
and with such a perceptive critique.   

Actually, that piece was written about fifteen years ago, and I have never 
bothered to revise it... Although much thought has gone into it since then and 
much polishing has been done to the basic theory.   Therefore, there are some 
elements in the original commentary that might be changed or played down 
somewhat.   However, I have not changed the underlying premise, which is based it on 
the proposition that Consciousness (i.e., awareness, will, etc.) is one of 
the fundamental dual aspects of the primal or mother SPACE that existed, in 
abscondito, prior to the initial emanation and fractal field involution on the 
spiritual level, that preceded the Big Bang at the fourth iteration that 
constitutes the FALL of mind into matter -- which awakened our physical space time 
continuum into its inflation, subsequent breaking of symmetry, precipitation of 
fundamental particles, and later, consciously guided construction into 
galaxies, stars, planets -- to eventually generate living forms that end with the 
final evolution of mankind toward achieving the infinite intelligence and 
consciousness of the initial source.   This appears to be the basis of the biblical 
statement that "God created Man in his (its) own image."   But, then the God 
spoken of there is actually the ten Sephiroth of the Hebrew "Tree of Life" in the 
Kabbala (i.e., the true occult or oral esoteric basis of the Torah and Talmud 
upon which the written or exoteric Bible, however distorted and twisted, is 
based, and which Jesus based his entire body of teachings on).   

According to the Kabbala, or esoteric interpretation of the Torah, which is 
similar to the Vedic or Hindu system -- it was these initial spiritually 
conscious beings, Chohans or "Angels," on the third fractally involved Logos, that 
guided the construction of the physical Cosmos after the "FALL"... Not the 
"fall of Man" as in the biblical allegory of Adam and Eve, but as the overall 
phenomenal field of Mind or Manas (Mahatma) that, falling from noumena to 
phenomena, became the root of Man's higher nature (thinker-observer) -- the real inner 
spiritual Self, "soul" or "witness" which overshadows his lower evolved 
animal nature or personal ego... This is the lower personal "self" that Buddha said 
"has no real or permanent existence."   

In this sense, he was NOT referring to the higher self that is the 
consciousness or spirit remaining in the individualized zero-point of absolute SPACE -- 
that continues its individuality after death of the lower body and ego, to 
reincarnate cyclically in new bodies (with no lower order memory of the previous 
life) ... With such incarnations continuing until the individual resolves or 
transcends all its past bad karma (or conscious disruptions of harmonious 
nature) and attains Moksha or enlightenment, and merges with the universal or God 
consciousness... While still maintaining its zero-point individual 
consciousness. This, of course, is logically in accord with ABC and its initial premise of 
the infinite divisibility of Absolute SPACE -- which is the only way we can 
account for the non locality as well as the entanglement of conscious 
experience in each individual on our physical plane.

Consistent with the ABC theory, I also see this "fall of Man," analogously 
repeated later, as the incarnation of the lower seven Sephiroth into mankind 
after the fourth fractal iteration of the physical universe is constructed (based 
on the universal memory of its previous phenomenal existence) and after 
organic life on Earth evolves into Mankind with sufficient brain development to 
awaken mind.   Thus, Universal Mind is evolved prior to physical Man and only 
becomes awakened in individual thinkers, as both rational and intuitive mind, 
after Mankind completes its evolution in the animal kingdom.   

But, that anthropogenesis is another story... And, beyond the scope of the 
ABC theory... Which is only concerned with Cosmogenesis and the initial 
fractally involved univrsal coenergetic fields -- which serve as the basis of all 
analogous fields of mind and memory that carry the images or information of 
phenomenal consciousness surrounding every zero-point of individual self awareness 
and source of will power that we experience in our present bodies.

Thus, neither consciousness nor mind evolves (in a Darwinian sense) ... But 
only Man's brain-body evolves -- so as to, after much experience and practice, 
make full use of our mental and spiritual nature, to eventually, individually 
return to the universal Spirit -- or "Become one with or 'yoked' to universal 
or God consciousness," so to speak.   

Since the teachings of Jesus and that of Guatama, the Buddha, are almost 
identical, we might understand, then, the common underlying relationship between 
"yoga," as practiced in the East, and "religion," as practiced in the West... 
Religion, derived from the Latin religare, binding or yoking (ref: ligament).   
The Buddhist teaching is to become one with the universal consciousness and 
thus achieve nirvana or enlightenment... As compared to the Christian idea of 
taking the spirit of Christ into one's Heart. "Heart" being a metaphor for 
one's individual self or soul, and the "spirit of Christ" being another name for 
pure universal or God consciousness -- that can be achieved (as Jesus pointed 
out allegorically to his disciples) by anyone with the proper knowledge and 
practice leading to self realization.   Unfortunately, this concept has been much 
distorted in the West due to literal or dead letter interpretation of the 
Biblical metaphors and allegories. 

But, these theological interpretations have little to do with the scientific 
basis of ABC theory -- although they are entirely consistent with its truths, 
as the fundamental basis underlying all religions (and their correct or 
mistaken belief systems).   The original Buddhist teachings, based on the scientific 
metaphysics of the esoteric "Budhiism" (Skt.) of the ancient Book of the 
Golden Precepts (Kiu-Te) -- without any anthropomorphic Gods to worship -- being 
the closest to the true reality.    

Matter, then, is simply the other aspect of that primal SPACE -- initially, 
in noumena, as its abstract motion or infinite angular momentum spinning on an 
infinite number of axes at infinite velocities... Three axes of which are the 
basis of our spherical universe consisting of all those fractally involved 
fields, in coadunation but not in consubstantiality (like bubbles within bubbles 
within bubbles) surrounding every zero-point spread throughout all of 
configuration space.   

It's from that initial triple axial structure (Up-Down, N-S, E-W) that the 
first octahedron (inscribed in a sphere) is derived, and that fractally involves 
into the "Uniomniform" crystal of 6^3 (6x6x6) diamond shaped elements on the 
physical plane.   [This, incidentally, may be why St. John allegorically 
labeled the material world (in contrast to the spiritual world of Christ) the 
"beast" in revelation, and gave it the number 666.] 

Thus, "Everything in both 'Heaven' and 'Earth' are interconnected attributes 
of one thing" -- as the ancient Hermetists say -- which both Jesus and Buddha 
also knew. 
http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/UNIOMNIFORMexploded.gif
http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/Fract-Expansion-Cosmos.gif  

I also understand this fractal geometry could very well be the root of the 
"structured water crystal" that you speak of... And realize that such structure 
could be the basis of the refraction's within any spherical field's geometric 
center that could allow the storage of near infinite amounts of information at 
different angles of incidence ... But only as holographic wave interference 
patterns in the higher order spherical coenergetic fields themselves that 
surround the zero-point centers and apexes of the 216 diamond shapes within every 
Uniomniform crystal.   

Note that these fractal diamond crystal forms which are analogous to the 
fractal involution of the universal ABC coenergetic fields, are also composed of 
8^3 (8x8x8) hollow tetrahedrons -- that could very well be the root of the 64 
hexagrams (each a dual trigram or triple digram) of the Chinese I- Ching --   
which supposedly, by various combinations and changes of the yin (broken) or 
yang (solid) lines in each of the 64 hexagrams can predict the "ten thousand" 
things and act as an oracle.   However, this is beyond the scope of the ABC 
theory. Although, from a psychological point of view, you might find it 
interesting to read Carl Jung's foreword to the Wilhelm's and Baynes' trabslation of the 
I-Ching. http://www.iging.com/intro/foreword.htm

Since consciousness is the sole noumenal attribute of those zero-points, 
everything in the universe is potentially phenomenally conscious in varying 
degrees depending on the neural complexity of the living organism.  The highest form 
being the human brain-body -- which can make full use, with proper training 
and practice, of the higher order fields of mind and memory -- extending from 
their rational aspects to their intuitive aspects. All unconscious or 
instinctive processes can also be attributed the memories and instructions contained in 
these fields and coenergetically imprinted prior to birth on the autonomic EM 
field of the foetal brain. These levels can be easily imagined by studying 
the following symbolic diagrams:
http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/chakrafield.html
http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/invlutionflddiagnotate.gif
http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/Chakrafielddiag-fig.col.jpg
http://users.aol.com/leonmaurer/BuddhaBabyGordianKnot.gif

Thus, it's quite obvious that the "God" of ABC, and the "God" of Buddha (as 
was also the "God" of Einstein) is that primal SPACE that existed as both 
noumenal Consciousness and noumenal Matter prior to the first awakening of the 
spiritual Cosmos along with the initial ten Sephirothal fields of universal 
consciousness -- of which the lower seven Sephiroths are the "Builders" or 
"Architects of the Universe" (as the Masons say).   This, of course is why, when 
speaking of the ABC theory and its conscious processes, besides denying any 
supernatural processes -- I reject all references to a separate "personal God" and the 
parallel divinity of Jesus as believed blindly through faith alone, by 
organized Judeo-Christian religions of all denominations (this also includes the 
Hebrew "God" when falsely anthropomorphized as a single supernatural individual 
such as Jehovah).   To Qoute H. P. Blavatsky in her article "Nature and Natures 
God" <http://tinyurl.com/vecv>  "It is not the One Unknown ever-present God 
in Nature, or Nature in abscondito that is rejected, but the God of human dogma 
and his humanized "Word." In his infinite conceit and inherent pride and 
vanity, man shaped it himself with his sacrilegious hand out of the material he 
found in his own small brain-fabric, and forced it upon mankind as a direct 
revelation from the one unrevealed SPACE.?

As for the rest of your questions and suggestions not covered above, I'll try 
to answer them directly below in the body of your original letter.

Best wishes,

Leon

In a message dated 3/31/07 9:54:37 AM, refrost@isp.com writes:


> Leon,
> 
> I was glad to read your web page
> http://www.tellworld.com/Astro.Biological.Coenergetics/
> 
> Interesting presentation and theory.  Well-written.  Thank you.
> 
> A couple of thoughts...
> 
> Not that it would be an easy thing to do,  but might there be another
> moniker than ABC? A make-over, or revision, including a re-naming?
> 
I think that -- since this ABC (Astro Biological Coenergetics) theory 
considers the macrocosm (Cosmos) as the analogous model of the microcosm (Man), and 
that both their fundamental (conscious and living) natures are entirely 
governed by their individual biology that coenergetically (i.e., inductive 
resonantly) projects and reflects through all their fractally involved fields -- Astro 
Biological Coenergetics almost exactly describes the basic unified field theory 
that underlies both cosmogenesis and anthropogenesis.  Since, it's an 
undisputed fact that all matter, at any degree of substantiality, is nothing more 
than energetic SPACE in varying degrees of motion... Therefore, all biological 
processes -- on both the macrocosmic and the microcosmic levels, as well as on 
or in quantum and sub quantum vacuum field levels -- must be governed by the 
coenergetic interaction of those vibrational fields and the information they 
carry.   Therefore, to change this descriptive process nomenclature, would be to 
change the fundamental basis of the entire theory -- which IMHO is entirely 
out of the question... Since life is nothing more than the biological 
interaction of coenergetic (electrodynamic) physical and astral or hyperspace fields in 
conjunction with consciousness. :-)
> 
> Also, I disagree with the Essene/new age  portrayal of  Jesus since
> the number of consistent written accounts going the other way are
> much greater in number and there are, I think, certain coherent
> advantages to not trivializing actual truth, but rather magnifying
> Jesus in the large scheme of things.  I think, in fact, that
> magnifying Jesus  may help to "make" your theory rather than detract
> it --  "save your life, rather than lose it" as the verse goes.  That
> is,  then you can solidly point toward the thousands of years of
> discrete prophetic predictions, tying in with their astronomically
> highly unlikely fulfillment in his one life.    "Jesus is the
> answer", which may sound ridiculous to you on the surface,  still
> turns out to be the foundational truth whether any of us like it of
> not.  It's just a historical fact.
> 
I can't see how the view I have of Jesus as a great Master of Wisdom -- who 
knew all the truths of Cosmogenesis that my theory logically explains and is 
perfectly consistent with the Talmud's Kabbalistic interpretation that he knew 
thoroughly -- has anything to do with making my theory more credible.   In 
fact, although his teachings may confirm it, an association of the theory with the 
Biblical Jesus, just puts a religious belief to it -- rather than having a 
sound scientifically logical basis related more to the cutting edge of string 
and quantum field theories as well as the holographic paradigm of Bohm-Pribram, 
and the microlepton theory of Iskakov among others.

As for the "historical fact" I doubt that the Jesus of the Christian Bible 
ever really had an historical existence as they interpret it. (Although I'm sure 
some wise Master of occult Knowledge spoke the words attributed to him)   
And, i'm sure his supposed "divinity" is the same as that which any true yoga 
Master (or anyone aspiring to become one) could obtain by deep meditative 
practice of Rajah Yoga as described in the Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali.   For online 
version, see: http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/patanjal/patan-hp.htm 

Didn't the Biblical Jesus say to his disciples, "You too, can do what I do"?  
 For more on how I understand Jesus, see: Who Was That Man Called J.C. <
http://users.aol.com/graphinc/wwtmcjc.html>

As for Jesus being an Essene, it's quite obvious that the Essene philosophy 
of the Nazarenes is identical to the teachings of both the Christ and the 
Buddha. 

BTW, the phrase "save your life rather than lose it" refers to the real inner 
life of spirit or one's higher nature that we have to save, rather than lose 
its connection to the universal consciousness by falling into and becoming 
attached to the world of Mammon.   But, as a faithful follower of the Master 
Jesus the Nazarene' (a.k.a. Rabbi Yeshuah Ben Yosef) -- I'm sure you already know 
that. :-) 

Since I believe (both logically and experientially) in life after death of 
the physical body -- having had a (later shown to be classic) near death 
experience, as well as several confirmed out of body experiences... And, considering 
the ABC reality -- based on cyclic beginnings and endings of all physical 
existences, as well as the eternality of zero-point consciousness -- I realize the 
possibility of both reincarnation and eternal nirvana.   Therefore, I have no 
reason to believe any of the religious teachings on those subjects -- that 
can only see such conscious existence after death as a spiritually materialistic 
view of a Heaven and Hell -- which in my view are completely erroneous ideas. 
  Only reincarnation an its infinite justice can allow us to experience our 
individual heaven's and hell[s right here on Earth where we initiated our good 
or evil karma.   

As Buddha said (and Christ implied) "all that we are (as pure conscious 
beings) is the result of what we have thought, and all that we will become (in this 
or our next life) is what we are thinking now."   Implying, correctly, that 
mind is separate from brain and body, and that karma ("what we sow, so shall we 
reap") governs our existence in or out of the body.   As ABC also concludes, 
such teachings are based on the fact that consciousness is eternal and 
unchanging, while all physical existence can be changed, modified or manipulated -- 
for good or evil -- depending on one's inner knowledge and motive for action.

In conclusion, I don't think that going any further into magnifying Jesus 
would do anything to help the ABC theory, which is based solely on scientific and 
mathematical reasoning, starting from zero and founded on a "new scientific 
paradigm" that considers consciousness and matter as fundamental realities in 
themselves, right from the get go... That is in direct contradiction of present 
physical science's assumption that matter is fundamental and consciousness an 
epiphenomena... While also denying the supernatural miracles and other and 
mystical aspects of most organized religions. Vicarious atonement and 
resurrection being examples. 

All that putting Jesus into the picture, as the believers see him, could do 
-- would be to put the ABC theory into the same category as other mystical 
nonsense that there can be "miracles" based on godlike "supernatural" powers.   
ABC has no connection with such woolly minded thinking based on nothing but 
blind faith in a literal interpretation of scriptures that have no historical 
validity except through their own unverified and unfalsifiable assertions -- that 
I can only attribute to priest-craft.   In my view, all the so called miracles 
were based on learned knowledge of the correlation of forces on all planes of 
reality, along with a full understanding that will can be focussed and 
directed consciously, and, at its fundamental level, is causative of all physical 
phenomena.   Thus, to be one with "God" consciousness at the primal zero-point 
is to have Godlike powers.   But, such powers are based solely on scientific 
knowledge, both metaphysically and physically.

> I know it doesn't play well in the modern culture -- it never did,
> but if you allow those examples in, which it seems you are saying
> your theory does anyway, then the long predicted Messiah, and the
> entire long account of the history of God's people comes from what
> you call the "higher, spiritual" levels, which others of us  already
> have learned a bit about "by faith",  to  thankfully refer to as
> relating with the living God.    It is, after all, 2007 orbits AFTER
> the birth of Jesus.  That fact alone reveals that the event was
> hugely "off the map"  in significance in human terms.  Trivialize or
> misrepresent the facts on that instance and what do you have?  What
> do you gain?
> 
I have never trivialized the fact that a Messiah could appear whenever there 
was an historical or evolutionary need... But that Messiah could be anyone 
that was there with the required knowledge and wisdom at the right time and 
place.   What Jesus has to do with the scientific world today is completely 
irrelevant as I see it, especially with respect to my theory...   Except, that most 
of the wars and killing in this age are carried out in the name of both Jesus 
and the so-called "living God" that he represents.  As for trivializing Jesus 
in the eyes of religious people who believe in him by faith, I regret that my 
theory puts him in that light.   But, as the great Master occultist he was, I 
can never trivialize him and his message (if you understand the parables and 
metaphors) that so closely are confirmed by my ABC theory.  

I can't see how the view I have of Jesus as a great Master of Wisdom -- who 
knew all the truths of Cosmogenesis that my theory logically explains and is 
perfectly consistent with the Talmud's Kabbalistic interpretation that he knew 
thoroughly (as I incidentally, learned from my father and grandfather who, like 
his, were learned Talmudists and Kabbalists) -- has anything to do with 
making my theory more credible.  In fact, although his teachings may confirm it, an 
association of the theory with the Biblical Jesus, just puts a religious 
belief to it -- rather than having a sound scientifically logical basis related 
more to the cutting edge of string and quantum field theories as well as the 
holographic paradigm of Bohm-Pribram, and the microlepton theory of Iskakov among 
others.

As for the "historical fact" I doubt that the Jesus of the Christian Bible 
ever really had an historical existence as they interpret it. (Although I'm sure 
some wise Master of occult Knowledge spoke the words attributed to him)   
And, i'm sure his supposed "divinity" is the same as that which any true yoga 
Master (or anyone aspiring to become one) could obtain by deep meditative 
practice of Rajah Yoga as described in the Yoga Aphorisms of Patanjali.   For online 
version, see: http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/patanjal/patan-hp.htm 

Didn't the Biblical Jesus say to his disciples, "You too, can do what I do"?  
 For more on how I understand Jesus, see: Who Was That Man Called J.C. <
http://users.aol.com/graphinc/wwtmcjc.html>

As for Jesus being an Essene, it's quite obvious that the Essene philosophy 
of the Nazarenes is identical to the teachings of both the Christ and the 
Buddha. 

BTW, the phrase "save your life rather than lose it" refers to the real inner 
life of spirit or one's higher nature that we have to save, rather than lose 
its connection to the universal consciousness by falling into and becoming 
attached to the world of Mammon.   But, as a faithful follower of the Master 
Jesus the Nazarene' (a.k.a. Rabbi Yeshuah Ben Yosef) -- I'm sure you already know 
that. :-) 

Since I believe (both logically and experientially) in life after death of 
the physical body -- having had a (later shown to be classic) near death 
experience, as well as several confirmed out of body experiences... And, considering 
the ABC reality -- based on cyclic beginnings and endings of all physical 
existences, as well as the eternality of zero-point consciousness -- I realize the 
possibility of both reincarnation and eternal nirvana.   Therefore, I have no 
reason to believe any of the religious teachings on those subjects -- that 
can only see such conscious existence after death as a spiritually materialistic 
view of a Heaven and Hell -- which in my view are completely erroneous ideas. 
  Only reincarnation an its infinite justice can allow us to experience our 
individual heaven's and hell[s right here on Earth where we initiated our good 
or evil karma.   

As Buddha said (and Christ implied) "all that we are (as pure conscious 
beings) is the result of what we have thought, and all that we will become (in this 
or our next life) is what we are thinking now."   Implying, correctly, that 
mind is separate from brain and body, and that karma ("what we sow, so shall we 
reap") governs our existence in or out of the body.   As ABC also concludes, 
such teachings are based on the fact that consciousness is eternal and 
unchanging, while all physical existence can be changed, modified or manipulated -- 
for good or evil -- depending on one's inner knowledge and motive for action.

In conclusion, I don't think that going any further into magnifying Jesus 
would do anything to help the ABC theory, which is based solely on scientific and 
mathematical reasoning, starting from zero and founded on a "new scientific 
paradigm" that considers consciousness and matter as fundamental realities in 
themselves, right from the get go... That is in direct contradiction of present 
physical science's assumption that matter is fundamental and consciousness an 
epiphenomena.   

All that putting Jesus into the picture, as the believers see him, could do 
-- would be to put the ABC theory into the same catagory as other mystical 
nonsense that there can be "miracles" based on god-like "supernatural" powers.   
ABC has no connection with such wooly minded thinking based on nothing but 
blind faith in a literal interpretation of scriptures that have no historical 
validity except through their own unverified and unfalsifiable assertions -- that 
I can only attribute to priest-craft.   In my view, all the so called miracles 
were based on learned knowledge of the correlation of forces on all planes of 
reality, along with a full understanding that will can be focussed and 
directed consciously, and, at its fundamental level, is causative of all physical 
phenomena.   Thus, to be one with "God" consciousness at the primal zero-point 
is to have God-like powers.   But, such powers are based solely on scientific 
knowledge, both metaphysically and physically.

> 
> Or, considering Castenada's or Don Yuan's imagery,  opening up to the
> inner world is a matter of life and death.   Why would they say
> that?    Why would Castenada point out being a follower of
> Christ  was "akin to"  being within another nagual system?
> 
Well, isn't it?   Wasn't the Christ of the Bible, practicing "sorcery" (at 
least in the eyes of his disciples) when he performed his so called miracles?   
Doesn't that make him a "Nagual" (i.e., sorcerer) And, isn't a real "follower" 
of that Christ only among his "disciples" to whom he gives the real 
scientifically metaphysical knowledge of his "miracles", rather than "casting those 
pearls among swine" (ignorant people) who blindly follow him.   And isn't opening 
up to the spiritual world a matter of "eternal life or death?"   In the ABC 
theory, it's easy to see how both karma and reincarnation can be facts of 
nature, and that returning or yoking to the Cosmic spirit or consciousness could be 
the source of eternal life in perfect bliss.   In this view, "LIFE" can only 
be spirit or consciousness -- not the brain-body that dissipates after 
death... While the higher order fields of mind and memory continue for as long as 
their higher order vibrations allow... Which, in the case of higher or intuitive 
mind -- could be as long as the Sun (our local "universe" that supplies us 
with the higher spiritual energies of LIFE) continues to exist. . 
> 
> And which path do you know which is a path with heart?   Where'd you
> learn about it? Might there be a deeper wisdom in first providing a
> significant undeniable exemplar well before acquiring the broader knowledge?
> 
There cannot be any "undeniable exemplar" when discussing the nature of the 
higher order fields and their energies -- since it can only be proven 
subjectively by self devised and self determined study and effort -- which requires 
deep meditative practice a la Patanjali.   This practice, also leads to "Self 
realization" or enlightenment.   The Heart Doctrine, BTW, is based on the inner 
knowledge that one's individual consciousness is also the consciousness of 
all... Therefore, what one does to another is, "as if it were done to oneself." 

The Heart Doctrine and path was taught to me (besides the teachings of Jesus 
and Guatama, which verifies the conclusions I also arrived at through a deep 
understanding of the ABC theory and its self judgemental consequences based on 
the laws of karma, "As ye sow, so shall ye reap." etc.) through a small 
devotional book called "The Voice of the Silence" by H. P. Blavatsky. 
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/voice/voice.htm
And through another book, "The Light on the Path" by Mabel Collins. 
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/lightpat/lightpat.htm

> That is, if we are to all open up to "worship in spirit and in
> truth",  is it wise to not emphasize but to put aside the advice to
> love God with  heart, mind, strength and soul, and to love one's
> neighbor as one's self?   To not speak of what is given?
> 
Yes, I think it's very wise to teach the real truth behind the admonition to 
love God and one's neighbor as oneself -- since the ABC theory proves (to 
those who understand it) that these "selves" or apparent individual consciousness 
are all identical right from the Cosmic primal beginning.   
Self-acknowledgment of such truths through ones inner knowledge is far more conducive to 
practice than the admonition based on blind faith in a separate God.   For, if all 
such blind believers in a personal God, vicarious atonement, and a divine Jesus 
would follow such admonition, there would be no more wars fought by Christians 
and Muslims who pray to their same God to defeat their enemies.   How does 
that jibe with "love thy neighbor as thyself"?   Who are they kidding?   
> 
> Also,     I note from
> http://www.medhelp.org/forums/neuro/archive/8916.html ; that
> aftereffects of a pinealectomy  is not immediate death or coma or
> total disruption of  consciousness or memory or imagination.     This
> fact, to me, disrupts the connections and roles  you pose to the
> pineal gland.   Thoughts? Remedies?
> 
My knowledge of the Pineal came through an endocrinologist who was talking 
about using a deep electromagnetic probe to examine the brain, long before the 
advent of MRI's and minimal invasive computerized surgery techniques.  
Therefore, I do not give much credence to anecdotal information regarding the removal 
of a brain tumor in on the pineal gland, which may not have removed the entire 
pineal gland, or entered its hollow interior... Although, it may have 
interrupted the nerve paths that trigger the manufacture and release of melatonin. 
While I doubt that much is known about the inner nature of the hollow gland in 
vitro... Today, I no longer have to speculate about the pineal being the visual 
theater, since the zero-point consciousness hypothesis does not require a 
physical link to the higher order light which we see inside our own mind -- which 
field is separate from the brain in a higher order hyperspace beyond the 
reach of physical mechanisms.    Although, I can still consider an analogous 
Uniomniform crystal as a focusing mechanism that is in either a liquid (water), 
physical (silicon) or astral/hyperspace form -- since the actual mechanism of 
holographic reconstruction of images stored as interference patterns on the 
surface of the higher order fields has not yet been fully defined -- other than 
projection of a higher order coherent radiation from the zero-point of perception 
in the center of the brain between the eyes and the ears adjacent to or in 
the pineal gland itself.
> 
> Having ~worked with an "allspace-filling"  magnetic tetrahedral
> imagery, I enjoyed thinking  about your notion of octahedra stacking
> to form octahedra, etc.   I think the tetrahedral formwork is well
> represented throughout the body in an analogous manner as the water
> molecules, either present of those formed during aerobic
> respiration.   Vibrations of that molecular array  is the widget that
> I think   transcribes signals "downward/upward".  The ++--
> tetrahedral-like form is present and continually replenished in a
> wildly uniform manner in all of us anyway, so it's easy to view that
> array as an antenna, generating and receiving various patterns.
> 
While I have no doubt that the water molecules form a Uniomniform crystal 
analog (which is a combination of octahedral shapes separated by hollow 
tetrahedral shapes in the ratio 6:8) I do not think that such water molecules or such 
shapes in other media have any relationship to the storage of memory -- since 
such information can only be stored as interference patterns in the fundamental 
fields that compose the hyperspace fields as well as the electrodynamic 
fields of any physical form starting with the smallest fundamental particle.   
Although such crystalline shapes have some relationship to the transmission of the 
information IOW, the ABC theory postulates that everything in the universe is 
composed of electrodynamic fields of fundamental SPACE in vibratory motion, 
and like radio waves, such radiation's can carry modulated wave interference 
patterns that form holograms at varying angles of incidence related to the 
reflecting surfaces of the analogous Uniomniform geometry within all spherical 
fields at any level of substantiality.   
> 
> I use the same artifact for the inner analog language for all the
> senses, imagination, and certainly for the short-term
> memory.   Hooking "bound water" layers with proteins also makes for
> some energetically very persistent artifacts so the long term memory
> could fashioned, rather simply, I think,   in the bound water layer.
> 
I doubt this -- since there is no mechanism that prevents the evaporation of 
water which action disrupts its crystalline nature (except possibly on its 
higher order hyperspace field radiation's).   This possibility is what I think 
accounts for the "phantom DNA" detected in some recent Russian experiments using 
Kirlian photography. 
> 
> Of course,  those knots and twists in the ordered water have
> associated or complementary vibrating field imageries so I see
> similarities in the descriptions.
> 
> Do you?
> 
Yes, but I'm not sure it's the same way you see them. :-)
> 
> Also, what are your thoughts on prayer?  Where do you stand on it?
> 
I am totally neutral about it, since the only prayer I know of is meditation 
on the nature of the true self-of-one -- which is the   Self-of-all.   This 
corresponds to Jesus' admonition to "pray to your God in your own private 
chamber" -- meaning, in the mind... With the Self-of-all, or the "Universal 
Consciousness" being   that "God".   As for prayer to a non existent supernatural 
personal God outside of one's own higher self (or as the occultists say, "the 
Master within us all"-- I believe it is a complete waste of time and energy.   

The reason “not to tell” about what you learn in such prayer or meditation, 
is that it would be throwing pearls at swine.   :-)   

Best wishes, 
Leon

> 
> Best regards,
> Ralph
> 




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