Theos-Talk Archives (February 2007 Message tt00093)

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> Can you enlighten me Konstantin?

Transactions Of The Blavatsky Lodge
April 25 th, 1889 

http://www.teosofia.com/Docs/vol-2-11-supplement.pdf

Why should rotation cease on a dead 
planet? 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" Because the life of 
a body as a whole is nothing but 
motion, a reflection of that one life 
which is called in the Secret 
Doctrine absolute motion. When a 
man dies his body as a whole 
ceases to move, although the 
individual activity of its cells, and 
ultimately of
its molecules, 
increases enormously. 
This is 
proved by the rapid and violent 
changes that take place in a 
decomposing corpse. In the same
way when a planet dies, its rotatory 
motion about its own axis ceases, 
though its activity in its constituent 
particles is increased rather than 
diminished. 
Now, if I am asked if the moon 
moves
â€"
it is in relation to the 
moon that this is asked
â€"
if I am
asked why the moon moves in an 
orbit round the earth, I reply that 
this is caused by the vampirising 
action of the moon upon the earth, 
not as science teaches owing to an 
attraction exerted by the earth upon 
the moon, but rather the reverse; 
the moon is so saturated with the 
magneto, vital emanation of the 
earth that she is carried along by it 
like an over-full sponge in a current 
of water. It is not the water that 
attracts the sponge in this case, but 
the sponge is carried along by the 
stream in its own movement. Does 
this explain satisfactorily, or did 
you want to know something very 
occult? 

Mr. Kingsland: No, I only wanted to 
know why the mass of the moon 
should cease to rotate as a mass of 
matter when the principles had left
it, what was the relation between 
the principles having left it and the 
mass of the matter of the moon 
ceasing to move? 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" It did not cease to 
move; it moves. 

Mr. Kingsland: â€" But, as a whole, on its 
own axis. 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" Because it cannot 
move, because the spirit has fled, 
because the principles are gone, so 
how can it move?

Mr. B. Keightley: â€" When a man is 
dead, when his principles have left 
him, the body as a whole does not 
move. 

Mr. Kingsland: That is to say, that a man 
is walking consciously. 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" 
It is not 
consciously that they move. They 
don’t know what they are about. 
Take an idiot, a complete idiot, he 
will be moving and running and 
grinning and jumping, but he will 
not know what he is about. 

Mr. Kingsland: â€" Then it is purely 
internal force. 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" It is simply vital 
impulse. 

Mr. B. Keightley: â€" The scientific idea 
of the thing is that it is a purely 
mechanical movement, because the 
large mass of matter having once 
been set spinning, there is no 
friction and nothing to stop it. 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" Don’t speak to me 
about science, because science and 
I are on cool terms. 

Mr. Kingsland: â€" The astronomical idea 
is that there is friction. 

Mr. B. Keightley: â€" Well, it is so slow 
that no calculation has found any 
trace of it. 

Mr. Kingsland: â€" They have found 
traces of it. 

Mr. B. Keightley: â€" It is supposed to 
take 300,000,000 of years to make 
the difference of half-an-hour. 

Mr. Mead: â€" Are you right in saying the 
moon does not move at all?
Doesn’t it revolve once?

Mr. B. Keightley: â€" Not on its own axis; 
I don’t think there is any rotation of 
the moon about its own axis. 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" It revolves because 
it vampirises and is carried away. 

Mr. B. Keightley: â€" Swept along so to 
speak in the current. 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" It vampirieses not 
by conscious action, but there is a 
kind of dead matter, which by its 
own inherent attribute or quality 
attract. 

Mr. B. Keightley: â€" You cannot say a 
sponge absorbs water consciously, 
but it absorbs. 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" Yes, it is carried up 
by the current. 

Mr. Mead: â€" In another way that is 
rather analogous, because it does 
rotate for some time, for instance, 
near the rocks. 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" There are no rocks 
in space. 

Mr. Kingsland: â€" That gives us rather a 
different idea, as to the planetary 
motion, the planets revolving by 
means of their own inherent force. 
If anything revolves in that way it 
must have something to revolve 
against, so to speak. 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" One is a satellite, 
and the other an independent entity. 
Mr. Kingsland: â€" I mean to say it must 
be able to pull itself round by 
something unless it is set going at 
the beginning, and goes on until it 
gradually stops by means of 
friction or some force acting upon 
it from outside. A man cannot lift 
himself by his own waistbelt, and 
you can hardly conceive of a planet 
revolving, and continuing to 
revolve by means of its own axis. 

Mr. B. Keightley: â€" Has it ever occurred 
to you that the Laya center is really, 
if you come to follow it out, the 
idea of rotatory motion, the center 
of vortex. 

Mdme. Blavatsky: â€" It is.