Theos-Talk Archives (January 2007 Message tt00246)

Friends,

If Bill is right in his message below, which I can't sayl, of course, one mistake does not makes another mistake legitimate. 

All mistakes must be freely discussed. 

And we do have reliable websites, clearly and sincerely commited to the theosophical CAUSE, not to personalities and to personality/dissensions. 

We can use them.  

Carlos. 


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Data:Sun, 07 Jan 2007 12:22:31 -0500

Assunto:Re: Theos-World RELIABLE WEBSITES

> Last year, while preparing a presentation on Ralph Waldo Emerson, I 
> noticed that The unnamed authors and or editors of Theosophy Magazine 
> silently edited some of the quotations from Emerson. Here is one example 
> from
> 
> 
> THEOSOPHY, Vol. 24, No. 2, December, 1935
> (Pages 49-54; Size: 17K)
> (Number 3 of a 7-part series)
> 
> *PRECURSORS OF H.P.B.*
> 
> *THE** THREE** FUNDAMENTAL** CONCEPTS OF*
> *EMERSON'S** PHILOSOPHY* 
> 
> see: http://www.wisdomworld.org/setting/emersontwo.html 
> 
> In para 6, Emerson is quoted as saying,
> 
> 
> "Of that ineffable Essence which we call Spirit, he that thinks most
> will say least. When we try to describe it, both language and
> thought desert us. That Essence refuses to be recorded. Language
> cannot paint it with colors. It is too subtle. It is undefinable,
> unmeasurable, but we know that it pervades and contains us."
> 
> 
> The above quotation from Emerson is actually the mixing of words from 
> two different Emerson works. The first part is from Emerson's essay on 
> Nature, Ch7 (Spirit). The second part (beginning with the word 
> 'Language') is from The Over-Soul. The Theosophy Magazine quote is 
> filled with silent deletion and even word substitution. Below I have 
> reconstructed the quote to display the silently deleted material.
> 
> 
> 
> "Of that ineffable Essence which we call Spirit, he that thinks 
> most*[,]* will say least*. [We can foresee God in the coarse, and, as it 
> were, distant phenomena of matter; but] *When we try to describe 
> it*[himself]*, both language and thought desert us *[and we are as 
> helpless as fools and savages.].* That Essence refuses to be recorded* 
> [in propositions, but when man has worshipped him intellectually, the 
> noblest ministry of nature is to stand as the apparition of God]*. 
> Language cannot paint it with *[his]* colors. It is too subtle. It is 
> undefinable, unmeasurable, but we know that it pervades and contains us." 
> 
> There are other examples of silent editing in this Theosophy Magazine 
> document. I wonder if anyone here could speak to this issue as far as 
> telling us what the policy of the Theosophy Magazine is regarding the 
> silent deletion of material deemed irrelevant? John, do you know? Is 
> the silent deletion of material deemed irrelevant by the authors/editors 
> grounds for questioning the honesty and reliability of Theosophy 
> Magazine? As I understand it, Theosophy Magazine is published by The 
> Theosophy Company. Shall we infer from these silent deletions (for 
> which, btw, there are no warning to the reader that I could find) that 
> the Theosophy Company itself is of questionable honesty and 
> reliability? I certainly don't and I hope no one else does.
> 
> 
> --bill
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> carlosaveline wrote:
> >
> > Friends,
> >
> > The theosophical movement has a number of "organic" websites. They are 
> > either part of the Adyar Movement, or the ULT, or Pasadena TS, or some 
> > small independent group or individual, and so on.
> >
> > But all of them have something in common, which Caldwell's and Green's 
> > websites can't offer: honesty and reliability. You can know where they 
> > stand.
> > One of the great websites we have, and reliable, is Wisdom World. It 
> > is slander-free, it does not attack HPB or Judge, it gives you Theosophy.
> >
> > Take a look, clicking at
> >
> > http://www.wisdomworld.org 
> >
> > Regards, Carlos.
> >
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