Theos-Talk Archives (December 2006 Message tt00645)

Daniel,
I never heard anything within the ULT about Crosbie having (or 
suppose to have) any contact with H.P. Blavatsky or W.Q. Judge after 
their deaths. But from one leading ULT:ian I was told that Crosbie 
claimed (or hade according too him) had contact with "H.P.B." (which 
ULT consider too be Morya, and not Helena P. Blavatsky, or master 
S.B. as I did and do) and "W.Q.J." (which ULT consider too be "the 
Raja", and not William Q. Judge), and Crosbie is within the ULT 
consider as a chela, and therefore in contacts with the mahatmas. It 
is said within the ULT that Crosbie was ordered by his master too 
found ULT (but not the DES/Second Section, hence Crosbie is claimed 
too have kept this "alive" since Judge died). But if it was thru 
written letter or in other ways (according too ULT), I do not know.

The mahatma pictures that Wadia broth with him from Adyar was the 
normal printed lodge picture (the middle size once), and the DES in 
Los Angeles already hade copies (normal printed lodge picture) of 
them from the beginning (+ Crosbie's own private small once). So 
nether of them was the original copies, but early reproductions. I 
remember very well a discussion on this subject once.

Carl

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "danielhcaldwell" 
<danielhcaldwell@...> wrote:
>
> Carl,
> 
> From your experiences in the United Lodge of
> Theosophists, what was your understanding about
> Robert Crosbie and the claim that he was in
> contact with the dead HPB, the dead Judge and
> the Mahatmas?  
> 
> I know that both Walter A. Carrithers, Jr. and 
> John Cooper had told me certain things about this.
> And Gregory Tillett has also written something about 
> this here on Theos-Talk.
> 
> I also understand that B.P. Wadia had copies of
> the portraits of the Masters when he left the Adyar
> TS and that these portraits or at least copies of
> them ended up at the ULT Los Angeles in a shrine
> room. 
> 
> Just wondering what you know or have been told about
> these two items.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your comments.
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
>