Theos-Talk Archives (December 2006 Message tt00546)

Both Carl and I cannot see any link, perhaps you need to re-read it.
Cass

carlosaveline <carlosaveline@terra.com.br> wrote:                                  Cass,
 
 Take a slower reading  at it, then.
 
 Carlos. 
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 Data:Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:03:50 -0800 (PST)
 
 Assunto:Re: Theos-World SUFILIGHT EXPANDS ON JESUITISM
 
 > I had a quick read of it but couldn't find the link, perhaps you could post what you are referring to Carlos.
 > Cass
 > 
 > cardosoaveline wrote: 
 > Friends, 
 > 
 > In the posting below, "Sufilight" explains what he meant by the 
 > Jesuitic presence in Caldwell's website. 
 > 
 > I don't remember Mr. Caldwell having "time" to answer it so far, 
 > but I may be wrong. Perhaps Mr. Caldwell will explain himself now, 
 > if he is not too busy repeting old stuff about theosophical 
 > difficulties and misunderstandings in the first part of the 20th 
 > century. 
 > 
 > Carlos. 
 > 
 > ooooooooooooooooooo
 > 
 > theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
 > 
 > Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:08:26 +0200 
 > 
 > Re: Theos-World To Sufilight: Jesuits Online? 
 > 
 > Hallo Carlos and all,
 > 
 > 
 > My views are:
 > 
 > There is as far as I can tell not much info about the Jesuits on the 
 > Caldwell website www.blavatskyarchives.com
 > 
 > As we know, the Jesuits are today the most dangerous group which 
 > the theosophists face.
 > 
 > It seems strange, that the Caldwell website devotes more info on 
 > internal debates between various theosophists disagreements and 
 > fractions disagreements and the like, than it does on the real 
 > enemies, namely the Jesuits. But maybe the dangerous enemies are 
 > already inside the gates of Theosophical teachings in the Caldwell 
 > camp.
 > 
 > Let me reformulate and say:
 > 
 > I am not just looking after quotes from wellknown theosophists on a 
 > theosophical website, but I am seeking that
 > Daniel Caldwell's website and Daniel himself take a moral stance on 
 > his website on the Jesuit issue.
 > 
 > There is way to little info on the Jesuits on Caldwells website.
 > Well, that is just little me, and my views and I do not even claim 
 > that I have a Ph. D. or a M.A.D or anything like that.
 > 
 > 
 > Did this help?
 > 
 > I will add som quotes in the below so to promote a present 
 > theosophical stance on the matter.
 > - - -
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > I will one more time repeat what Blavatsky said.
 > An excerpt:
 > THEOSOPHY OR JESUITISM? written by Blavatsky
 > "Theosophy and Jesuitism are the two opposite poles, one far above,
 > the other far below even that stagnant marsh. Both offer power--one 
 > to the spiritual, the other to the psychic and intellectual Ego in 
 > man. The former is "the wisdom that is from above . . . pure, 
 > peaceable, gentle . . . full of mercy and good fruits, without 
 > partiality and without hypocrisy," while the latter is "the wisdom 
 > that descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, DEVILISH."3 
 > One is the power of Light, the other that of Darkness.
 > . . ."
 > http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/TheosophyOrJesuitism.htm 
 > (Published in Lucifer 1888)
 > 
 > 
 > H. P. Blavatsky says:
 > "The words "Jesuit" and "Jesuitism" cover the whole ground. The 
 > Spirit of Truth has departed ages ago - if it has ever been near 
 > it - from the Church of Rome. "
 > http://www.theosophical.ca/StarAngelWorship.htm
 > 
 > 
 > Background on The Vatican's Secret Archives
 > 
 > "In 1881, thanks to the generosity of Leo XIII, scholars were 
 > allowed free access to the Vatican Secret Archives, thus becoming 
 > one of the most important historical research centres in the world."
 > http://asv.vatican.va/en/arch/1_past.htm
 > 
 > 
 > Excerpts from The Vatican's statement on The essential matrix of 
 > New Age thinking:
 > "19th century esotericism is seen by some as completely 
 > secularised. 
 > Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements of traditional 
 > esotericism had been thoroughly integrated with aspects of modern 
 > culture, including the search for causal laws, evolutionism, 
 > psychology and the study of religions. 
 > It reached its clearest form in the ideas of Helena Blavatsky, a 
 > Russian medium who founded the Theosophical Society with Henry 
 > Olcott in New York in 1875."
 > ...and also...
 > "However, it is well to be aware that the doctrine of the Christ 
 > spread in New Age circles is inspired by the theosophical teachings 
 > of Helena Blavatsky, Rudolf Steiner's anthroposophy and Alice 
 > Bailey's "Arcane School". 
 > Their contemporary followers are not only promoting their ideas 
 > now, but also working with New Agers to develop a completely new 
 > understanding of reality, a doctrine known by some observers 
 > as "New Age truth"."
 > ...and also...
 > "A prominent component of Mrs. Blavatsky's writings was the 
 > emancipation of women, which involved an attack on the "male" God 
 > of Judaism, of Christianity and of Islam. She urged people to 
 > return to the mother-goddess of Hinduism and to the practice of 
 > feminine virtues. This continued under the guidance of Annie 
 > Besant, who was in the vanguard of the feminist 
 > movement. Wicca and "women's spirituality" carry on this struggle 
 > against "patriarchal" Christianity today."
 > 
 > 
 > http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/docume
 > nts/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html
 > 
 > 
 > Help us all:
 > I would really like, as many comments on ALL the statements this 
 > link in the above makes about The Theosophical Society, theosophy 
 > and Blavatsky.
 > These comments could then, by someone, later be formed into an 
 > answer to the Vatican and the Pope - and also a relevant newspaper 
 > or magazine (perhaps Der Spiegel.)
 > 
 > This is theosophical thinking. It is much better than internal 
 > nitpickings about who has written a lousy book about Theosophy or 
 > theosophy.
 > 
 > Just ask. I might be able to help you.
 > 
 > 
 > from
 > M. Sufilight with peace and love...
 > 
 > 
 > ----- Original Message ----- 
 > From: "carlosaveline" 
 > To: "theos-talk" 
 > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 9:13 PM
 > Subject: Theos-World To Sufilight: Jesuits Online?
 > 
 > 
 > Dear Sufilight,
 > 
 > Can you explain this question of yours addressed to Daniel?
 > 
 > "So Daniel, What do you have to say about the Jesuits online on your
 > websites, - www.blavatskyarchives.com ???"
 > 
 > I missed something here...
 > 
 > Thanks a lot, Sufilight,
 > 
 > Carlos.
 > 
 > 
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