Theos-Talk Archives (December 2006 Message tt00295)

Friends,

I see Daniel has not read my postings on the esoteric tradition. If the ULT does not behave as the average public institution, which it is not, so what? 

Such attacks seem to be a proof for the need of some secrecy, which has been observed since Confucius time, later Jesus, all the way down to 1875...

Still, people who are exposed to the teaching of Theosophy could well respect that. 

Does having respect harm anyone? 


Carlos. 




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Data:Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:35:28 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Gregory: "It’s like trying to gather up quicksilver!"

> Gregory,
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> But I have never met with such a strange "we are totally open" while 
> being less accessible than the CIA approach than I have found with 
> the ULT. Individual members (including various librarians who, I 
> presume, could not have been librarians because "librarian" 
> presupposes an office!) have been kind and generous – but have never 
> answered a single historical question directly unless it could be 
> done with an (apparently) almost memorized section of one of the ULT 
> official tracts. It's like trying to gather up quicksilver!
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> I love your sentence about "quicksilver"!!!
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> Let me first focus on this part of what you wrote:
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> "Individual members ...have never answered a single historical 
> question directly unless it could be done with an (apparently) almost 
> memorized section of one of the ULT official tracts."
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> Not one single historical question!
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> Now one might wonder why this is the case? 
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> And I would think that not all of these historical questions related 
> to esoteric/secret subjects either....
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> I must say that for the most part this has ALSO been my experience 
> with MOST ULT associates that I have either talked or corresponded 
> with.
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> Now a few associates and a good number of ex-associates have been 
> much more forthcoming and have given other than "almost memorized" 
> versions.
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> I have been quite intrigued by this "phenomena" that you and I have 
> observed.
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> And my observation has been that these associates seem to lapse into 
> what I would call ULTese - using almost the same phrases, etc. And 
> when you ask for clarification of some of these phrases and words, 
> you never get further explanations that you could actually understand 
> or pin down!!
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> So I think your "quicksilver" description is very apt.
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> When I first became disillusioned with Leadbeater, I was quite 
> interested in the ULT and inquired but from the very first I 
> encountered this strange "behavior" on the part of some ULT 
> associates. All of this somewhat intrigued me but was actually 
> a "put off" at the time.
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