Theos-Talk Archives (December 2006 Message tt00180)

Yes, I thinks so, he most be that. Hence he is continuing to spread 
his fantasies and lies about Freemasonry. I have noticed this kind 
of behavior before, and then from persons that have been denied 
membership in a Masonic Lodge, or have been kicked out. But this can 
not be case with Mr. Aveline; hence his level of Masonic knowledge 
is not much to talk about. As he has proven him self.

Aveline wrote:
"The masonic tradition cannot be said to be entirely bad at all 
times, ever. It got more severely infiltrated since 17th-18th 
centuries. Especially from 18th century."
See: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/38313

My only comment to the first sentence is; What do want to prove with 
that, Mr. Aveline? And don't start to talk about something else in a 
respond to this, and hide behind Blavatsky by saying "It was not I 
that said that, it was HPB". I can assure you, that if you hade done 
that for real, she would have kicked you away, like a street dog. 

The first real infiltration in Freemasonry made by christens was 
when Magister Johann August Starck (he converted from Lutheranism to 
Roman Catholicism) "made" a unification between "Das Clericat" 
(founded 1767), under him self, and the "Strict Observance" (founded 
1743), under Karl Gotthelf Freiherr von Hund, in 1769. This only 
lasted a few years. The second real infiltration within Freemasonry 
of christens (Lutherans) was during 1850th-60th in the Swedish Rite 
lodges (which has one of its sources Strict Observance, and was 
originally (before the entrance of the Lutheran pastors) probably 
the most Occult of all Masonic Rites and Systems) in Scandinavia, 
Germany and Russia. This is over today, but it more or less 
destroyed this originally wonderful and excellent Rite of 
Freemasonry. 

Not even Pastor James Anderson would ever hade dreamed about making 
the Masonic Lodges some form of annexes to the church.

During the history have the Catholics accused the Masonic Lodges to 
be infiltrated and controlled by Protestants, and the Protestants 
has on their side accused the Freemasons to infiltrated and 
controlled by the Jesuits. The Communists has accused the Freemasons 
for being undercover Capitalist clubs, and the Capitalists have 
accused the Freemasons to be secret Socialists propaganda centrals 
(this have some Catholics done to). The National Socialists was 
talking about some strange conspiracy together with the Jews. And 
many Christians ("new-born" ones, primitive Baptists, Pentecostals 
etc) have called the Freemasons for devil worshipers. 

So, in which anti-Masonic league, do Mr. Aveline belong?

For never, ever has Theosophy been anti-Masonic, and it will never 
be that. But in the Calvinist-theosophy (ULTianism) of ULT could 
everything happen. 

"If asked how a profane can know it, the answer comes: ancient and 
modern Freemasonry are an obligatory study with every Eastern 
Occultist.

BCW vol.XI, p, 71

W.Bro. Carl Ek, PM, IX°, 30°
Lodge No. 876 Adoniram
Corr. Fellow of Q.Q.