Theos-Talk Archives (December 2006 Message tt00024)

Daniel,
I can't say anything more then that is right what you wrote.

Carl

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "danielhcaldwell" 
<danielhcaldwell@...> wrote:
>
> What is a society 
> & what is propaganda??? 
> 
> To Carl Ek:
> 
> I am responding in part to your latest posting
> about the ULT.
> 
> Carlos Aveline wrote in one of his Oct. postings:
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> The ULT, besides being much smaller than Adyar, is not a
> Theosophical Society and makes no propaganda of itself.
> 
> It does not have a corporation status. It is an informal network of
> students present in 15 countries. So it cannot be compared to the
> Adyar Theosophical Society, which makes a lot of public propaganda.
> --------------------------------------------
> 
> Now contrary to Mr. Aveline's pronouncement, both the Theosophical 
> Society Adyar and the United Lodge of Theosophist are "societies" 
in 
> light of the following dictionary definitions:
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> 2 : a voluntary association of individuals for common ends;
> especially : an organized group working together or periodically
> meeting because of common interests, beliefs, or profession
> 3 a : an enduring and cooperating social group whose members have
> developed organized patterns of relationships through interaction
> with one another
> ------------------------------------------
> 
> It is true that the ULT is smaller than Adyar but that doesn't
> change the fact that they are both societies.
> 
> And both of them can be considered Theosophical societies.
> 
> Again Mr. Aveline wants us to believe that the TS Adyar engages in
> propaganda and the ULT does not.
> 
> But consider the dictionary definitions of "propaganda":
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> 1 : The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of
> information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating
> such a doctrine or cause.
> 2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose 
of
> helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Although the word "propaganda" can have a negative connotation in
> some situations, the word can be simply defined as:
> 
> "the spreading of ideas, information....for the purpose of
> helping...a cause"
> 
> Certainly both the ULT and the TS Adyar spread ideas and 
information
> through pamphlets, books, magazines, lectures, websites, etc.
> 
> I have seen ads/announcements in newspapers about the ULT and its
> lectures and books. The ULT Los Angeles has a website. There are
> other ULT websites. There are ULT leaflets, lectures, books,
> magazines, etc. All of these are ways of spreading ideas and
> information, propagation of information for the purpose of helping
> the Theosophical cause....
> 
> No doubt, since the TS Adyar is larger than the ULT, there is more
> public dissemination of info by the TS Adyar.
> 
> Still...both organizations do propaganda.
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
>