Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt01190)

Friends,


Dr. Tillett has posed an interesting moral question,  to those who help someone in stealing. Please calmly consider his words.  

He says: 

"As to who are 'thieves', my own moral position is that anyone who takes,
or facilitates or cooperates in the taking of, the property of another, or
who knowingly makes use of that property or allows him or herself to be
associated with such taking or using such property is a 'thief'. This is a
wider definition than that given by most legal systems ? but the law is
always narrower than morality. Assume that I am a mechanic and a friend
asks me to undertake repairs on a motor vehicle. I know that vehicle to
have been stolen by my friend. Am I acting morally if I undertake the
repairs? Can I assist my friend to prepare the vehicle for sale (even if I
receive no benefit from the sale)?"

These are Tillett's words. 

I would like to see more commentaries and information coming from Caldwell's quarters.  Does Caldwell consider it OK to help Algeo in stealing?  

Or does Caldwell and his followers at Theos-talk consider that Algeo is not a thief, after all? 

If so, why?  

Please note that this is only one example,  among others, of the absence of Ethics in TPH-USA and especially in Algeo's actions. 

We are a forum open to debate here, and we can all learn from each other. 

I don't believe D. Caldwell "knows nothing about it".  I hope he will share some of his sincere views with us, even if the "gets in political trouble" in some pseudo-theosophical circles.  

Regards,   Carlos.  

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Cópia:

Data:Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:11:56 +1100 (EST)

Assunto:Theos-World What is theft?

> I am responding to John's recent posting:
> 
> While I am happy to answer all your questions, and to make copies of all
> correspondence available, I cannot do so at present. I teach in a
> University Law School and we are at the end of a teaching semester, with
> assignments for marking piled up all over my study ? and course materials
> for 2007 requiring re-writing, and another book for Oxford University
> Press requiring completion! When I move into calmer times, I will pull out
> the substantial files on this matter and undertake a summary of the whole
> unpleasant process.
> 
> I propose putting all the material together in due course so that there is
> a public record what happened.
> 
> As for the committee ? I have no idea of its status, and wrote to its
> members in the hope that they might have some influence, even if no formal
> power.
> 
> I would note: John?s family asked NOTHING (including money) in return for
> the rights to publish or use his work, and in return for the free gift of
> copies of his entire research collection on the Blavatsky correspondence
> (subsequently presented as a gift to the National Library of Australia)
> BUT the conditions I outlined: (a) acknowledge and the protection of their
> rights, and (b) no changes to the work without approval. John, by the way,
> had been anxious about Wheaton/Adyar ideological editing and told me (and
> others) that he had included a specific clause in the contract he had with
> the TPH to give him final editorial control. The family sought to preserve
> this as he had wanted, but did not refuse to allow any changes, only to
> require that changes be approved by them.
> 
> As to who are ?thieves?, my own moral position is that anyone who takes,
> or facilitates or cooperates in the taking of, the property of another, or
> who knowingly makes use of that property or allows him or herself to be
> associated with such taking or using such property is a ?thief?. This is a
> wider definition than that given by most legal systems ? but the law is
> always narrower than morality. Assume that I am a mechanic and a friend
> asks me to undertake repairs on a motor vehicle. I know that vehicle to
> have been stolen by my friend. Am I acting morally if I undertake the
> repairs? Can I assist my friend to prepare the vehicle for sale (even if I
> receive no benefit from the sale)?
> 
> Dr Gregory Tillett
> 
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