Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt01147)

Adelasie,


Thanks. 


I have to ask you one question, though. 

Have you ever asked the possible thief, "Dr."  John Algeo, if he questioned himself about the first impression caused on new (or old) students, as they read,  as authentic, false letters in which Helena Blavatsky is made to call herself a whore? 

Besides, I was  asking Daniel's opinion.  

As you may know, dr. Gregory Tillett did say that John Algeo and the TPH-USA  stole the copyrights of the research made by John Cooper, on the HPB Letters. 

Apparently Daniel says he did not help steal the copyrights. 

Regards, Carlos. 


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Data:Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:23:42 -0800

Assunto:Re: Theos-World Is J. Algeo a Thief?

> Carlos,
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> Do you ever think to ask yourself what kind of impression such a 
> message as the following (which characterizes a large amount of the 
> posting on this list recently) makes on a new student, someone who 
> has just discovered the wonder of theosophy and comes searching for 
> communion with like-minded students? Do you remember when you first 
> found theosophy, which spoke to unanswered questions and soul-
> wrenching longings previously unaddressed? Is there some way we could 
> consider those hungry souls who are searching for truth and hope, 
> when we choose to post such scurrilous and essentially separatist 
> slander over and over again? Is there some way we could find to focus 
> our attention on sharing the message the world has waited for so 
> long, instead of smearing mud over everything done by so many during 
> the past century and more, instead of casting doubt and suspicion on 
> our fellow students? Do you ever stop to think what you are doing?
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> Adelasie
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> On 24 Nov 2006 at 10:50, carlosaveline wrote:
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> > Daniel,
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> > You ask: 
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> > " Is it in your ethics (Theosophical or otherwise) Carlos to accuse a 
> > person of stealing especially without one iota of evidence?"
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> > As to Algeo having stolen John Cooper's research Work, I can only rely on Gregory Tillett's testimony, which says Algeo did, and on your own clarifications about that.
> > 
> > I also would like to know whether you helped Algeo steal the copyrights. 
> > 
> > If you say you did not, and if you say you do not see Algeo's possible stealing as legitimate, I will accept your word for that. 
> > 
> > Carlos.
> > 
> > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > Data:Fri, 24 Nov 2006 03:56:53 -0000
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> > Assunto:Theos-World Re: Did Daniel Help Algeo Steal? Didn't he?
> > 
> > > Dear Carlos,
> > > 
> > > You write:
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> > > I thought you helped JohnAlgeo steal John Cooper's work on the HPB's 
> > > letters. 
> > > 
> > > I might be wrong, though. Did you not? Please tell us about that. 
> > > 
> > > Was John Cooper's research "wrongly used", or stolen by the TPH? 
> > > And -- did you help Algeo in that?
> > > 
> > > Perhaps, instead of asking questions, you will decide to clarify 
> > > events. 
> > > ==============================================================
> > > 
> > > Is it in your ethics (Theosophical or otherwise) Carlos to accuse a 
> > > person of stealing especially without one iota of evidence?
> > > 
> > > If you have any evidence of the accusation that you bring forth 
> > > AGAINST ME, I ask you please present it in detail. If not, I would 
> > > advise you to stop making such reckless and wild statements.
> > > 
> > > I will simply repeat what I have said before. Of course, you will no 
> > > doubt simply ignore it.
> > > 
> > > But one more try.
> > > 
> > > When John Cooper was alive I gave John various feedback, suggestions, 
> > > etc. concerning HPB's letters. Especially on bibliographic concerns.
> > > 
> > > When John Cooper died, I gave the same kind of info to John Algeo and 
> > > TPH.
> > > 
> > > Now are you saying that I am guilty of stealing material from John 
> > > Cooper's work because I was giving feedback, info, suggestions, etc. 
> > > to John Algeo and TPH?
> > > 
> > > It is also my understanding that Dara Eklund, Nicholas Weeks and the 
> > > other members of the editorial committee ALSO gave advice, feedback, 
> > > etc.
> > > 
> > > Therefore I'm surprised that you haven't accused Dara, Nicholas and 
> > > the rest of the committee because they ALSO gave input to John Algeo 
> > > and TPH!!
> > > 
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