Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00776)

Carlos you give wrong statement of that book:
Now I have the book for my nose and readed back this story

-At first - Saved by the ghost -  is not the longest story and it is 
not what you present of it.All the  coloured people have fight with 
each other and they hatred whites and it plays in the time 
leadbeater was a young boy.Nothing of killing people by any white 
head.
Baron's room,  at the camp of matinez and the flight and possiibly 
others are much longer stories.
In a meantime the whole book will be to read at www.Anandgholap.net

Christina












-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
>
> Christina, 
> 
> Hi. 
> 
> You say: 
> 
> "This book only shows how karma is working.  Nothing special about 
coloured people."
> 
> I say, please read below. 
> 
> oooooooo
> 
> 
> In a footnote to his autobiographical Postface in the book "The 
Seven
> Veils of Consciousness", C. Jinarajadasa states that that the true 
story of his
> own "previous (and glorious) death in Brazil" is narrated in the 
chapter "Saved by a Ghost", of the book "The Perfume of Egypt" (2).
> 
> C.J. believed everything CWL said, and he also writes in the note 
that the same old silver crucifix which is mentioned in that story 
was in his possession, as he wrote "The Seven Veils of 
Consciousness".
> 
> As to Leadbeater, in the preface of his 'The Perfume of Egypt", he 
makes a
> solemn statement:
> 
> "The stories in this book happen to be true."
> 
> Along "Saved By a Ghost", the longest story of the volume, 
Leadbeater proudly describes how he killed numerous black people and 
indigenous people in South America during his youth.
> 
> Of course, common sense says that the story is as illusory as the 
visits
> Leabeater made to physical plane civilizations in Mars and Mercury.
> 
> But even if it were presented as a `short novel' pure and simple, 
and not as an autobiographical narration, the content of the text 
reveals too much of racism and disrespect against black people, 
indigenous people and their right to live. Leadbeater also uses the 
term "race" not in its theosophical meaning, but in the 
nationalistic way, as if each country had its own 'race', 
anticipating what Adolf Hitler would do decades later.
> 
> At p. 167 of the Adyar edition, one starts to read his description 
of Brazilian
> people:
> 
> "First came the descendants of Spanish and Portuguese conquerors ? 
a haughty, indolent race; a race courtly and hospitable, by no means 
without its good qualities, but yet one whose strongest 
characteristic was an immeasurable contempt (or the affectation of 
it) for all other races whatsoever".
> 
> The amount of illusions-per-line is outstanding here.
> 
> First, Spanish people were never `conquerors' in Brazil. The 
country was
> `discovered' and made a colony by Portugal. Second, Portuguese 
people are not a race; and they cannot be easily described 
as `indolent'. Third, Portuguese people generaly did not 
show `contempt' for other `races', and it is for this reason that 
miscigenation ? intermarriage ? was from the first the main 
anthropological characteristic of the emerging Brazilian nation. 
Portuguese people easily created strong personal links with black 
people and indigenous people. (Of course, colonization was also 
violent.)
> 
> In the next paragraph, "bishop" Leadbeater is even more surprising:
> 
> "Next came red indians".
> 
> Well, there are no `red indians' in Brazil, although the term is 
very common in
> old North American Far West bang-bang stories, in which hundreds 
of "bad"
> Indians get typically killed by a few white men usually presented 
as brave
> heros.
> 
> Leadbeater says about "red indians":
> 
> "Of these many tribes had adopted a kind of squalid civilization, 
but many
> others were still savages untamed and untamable ? men who regarded 
work of any kind as the deepest degradation ? who hated the white 
man with a traditional, unrelenting hatred, and (strange as it may 
seen) more than reciprocated the boundless contempt of the blue-
blooded hidalgo of Spain. It will be no doubt incomprehensible to 
many of us that a half-naked savage can entertain any other feeling 
than envy for our superior civilization, however much he may dislike 
us; but I can only say that the quite genuine and unaffected feeling 
of the Red Indian towards the white man is pure and unmitigated 
contempt."
> 
> What are the problems in these few lines? First, again comes the 
Spanish
> `hidalgo' (nobleman) apparently ruling Brazil, a country which was 
independent from Portugal (not Spain), since 1822, and was never 
under any "Spanish' ruling class. Second, the `red Indian' again. 
Third, indigenous people and did not express hate against white 
people, and never actively resisted the domination of European 
rulers in Brazil. These two paragraphs simply can't refer to any 
South American country.
> 
> But CWL proceeds (p. 168) to develop his unbrotherly view of human 
beings:
> 
> "Then came the negro race ? no inconsiderable portion of the 
populations, and chiefly in a state of slavery, though the 
Government was doing all in its power to remove that curse from its 
territories; and last and worst came what were called the half-
breeds or half-castes ? a mixed race which seemed, as mixed races 
sometimes do, to combine all the worst qualities of both its parent 
stocks. Indians, Spaniards, and Negro alike despised them; and they 
in turn regarded all alike with a virulent hatred."
> 
> We can see in these words some strong `pioneer elements' for the 
future
> ideologies of Nazism and Fascism, and ultimately for the mass-
murder attemtps of "ethnic cleansing". Look at it again:
> 
> " (...) and last and worst came what were called the half-breeds 
or half-castes
> ? a mixed race which seemed (...) to combine all the worst 
qualities of both its parent stocks."
> 
> This is Leadbeater.
> 
> But -- what about Theosophy? What does esoteric philosophy really 
say about the relations between rich and poor nations and among all 
different ethnical groups, with their varied kinds of colours in the 
skin? In the "Letters from the Masters", the famous letter known as 
coming from the "Great Master" says:
> 
> "To achieve the proposed object, a greater, a wiser, and 
especially a more
> benevolent intermingling of the high and the low, of the Alpha and 
the Omega of Society, was determined upon. The white race must be 
the first to stretch out the hand of fellowship to the dark nations, 
to call the poor despised `nigger' brother. This prospect may not 
smile to all, but he is no Theosophist who objects to his principle" 
(2)
> 
> One can only conclude, then, that in writing that paragraph 
Leadbeater was "no theosophist".
> 
> In fact, Leadbeater's vision of human beings as presented in that 
long story is not only ethically and culturally unacceptable. It is 
also legally criminal, for
> racism and stimulation of hatred among people of different skin-
colours has been defined as crime in Brazil a few years ago.
> 
> One can understand why the Brazilian edition of "Saved By a Ghost" 
cannot be found in Brazilian bookshops any longer. Yet it is still 
for sale at Adyar, it
> seems.
> 
> ( In another posting, I should refer to Leadbeater's proudly 
alleged acts of
> violence leading to death, which, even if seen as fictional, are 
profoundly
> untheosophical. )
> 
> Best regards, Carlos.
> 
> 
> 
> NOTE:
> 
> (1) "The Perfume of Egypt", by C. W. Leadbeater, whose sixth 
edition (TPH Adyar, 265 pp.) is dated 1978.
> 
> 
> (2) "Letters From the Masters of the Wisdom", compiled by C. 
Jinarajadasa, Adyar  TPH, first series, Letter number one, known 
as `the Maha-Chohan Letter' or "the Great Master Letter'.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Cópia:
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> Data:Sun, 12 Nov 2006 14:16:36 -0000
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> Assunto:Theos-World The perfume of egypt
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> > This book only shows how karma is working.
> > Nothing special about coloured people.
> > Christina
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