Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00689)

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Carlos. 

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Data:Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:55:55 -0800

Assunto:Re: Theos-World Re: Wed Nov 8 Thought for the Day

> Thank you Jake,
> 
> You are the only one that responded to my request. When I read this 
> quote in our class on the Key that we have here in Kent, WA, a few 
> things were clarified to me. For example, we know that the spiritual 
> EGO is Manas illuminated by Buddhi and Atma. This is what 
> reincarnates. HPB calls that EGO also Sutratma, which in reality is 
> the string of incarnations goes through its spiritual evolution. The 
> implication is that the EGO is the samething as Its spiritual path.
> 
> The analogy is that when you or I enter the spiritual Path ultimately 
> we become that Path.
> 
> As above so below.
> 
> Thank you for helping me close this case. I appreciate it.
> 
> Rudy
> 
> On Nov 11, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Mark Jaqua wrote:
> 
> > Re: Wed Nov 8 Thought for the Day
> >
> > R. Don quotes from the "Key to Theosophy":
> >
> > <"....as the bee collects its honey
> > from every flower, leaving the rest
> > as food for the earthly worms, so
> > does our spiritual individuality,
> > whether we call it Sutratma* or
> > Ego. Collecting from every terrestrial
> > personality, into which Karma
> > forces it to incarnate, the nectar
> > alone of the spiritual qualities
> > and self-consciousness, it unites all
> > these into one whole and emerges from
> > its chrysalis as the glorified Dhyan
> > Chohan. So much the worse for those
> > terrestrial personalities from which
> > it could collect nothing. Such personalities
> > cannot assuredly outlive consciously their
> > terrestrial existence."
> > <.....I would like
> > to see discussions generated. There is
> > important information in this single paragraph.>
> >
> > Well, as far as I know, the "Sutratma or
> > "Spiritual Ego" referred to is based in the
> > personal monad, and is not the same thing
> > as the "guardian angel" or manasaputra that
> > each person is supposed to be overshadowed by.
> > We add the "essence" from each incarnation
> > to the wealth of understanding, so to
> > speak, of our own spiritual ego or Self.
> > The buddhic and Higher manas aspects.
> > Experience is generally all lower quaternary,
> > or mundane, and there isn't anything very
> > spiritual about it. So it must be the
> > personal insights we generate from this
> > experience, which is a higher manas or
> > buddhic essence or overview of the whole
> > process which is garnered by the Spiritual
> > Ego, and not the mundane experience itself.
> > 'And you can't generate these insights
> > unless you maintain a latent, at least,
> > link with ones higher nature throughout
> > a personal life.
> >
> > - jake j.
> > ----------
> > ----------------------
> > <2. Wed Nov 8 Thought for the Day
> > Posted by: "Rodolfo Don" rrdon27@earthlink.net rrdon27
> > Date: Wed Nov 8, 2006 12:55 pm ((PST))
> > This is an excerpt from The Key to
> > Theosophy pp. 167-8. It explains
> > the spiritual EGO and its multiple
> > incarnations. I would like to see
> > discussions generated. There is important
> > information in this single
> > 
> > What is the difference between the
> > spiritual individuality and every
> > personality that the Ego creates ?
> > Why are so important all these diverse
> > personalities ? Some pleasant,
> > some unpleasant...
> > 
> > concludes with its pilgrimage ?
> > Thank you
> > Rodolfo Don
> > <"The spiritual Ego of man moves in
> > eternity like a pendulum between
> > the hours of birth and death. But
> > if these hours, marking the periods
> > of life terrestrial and life spiritual,
> > are limited in their
> > duration, and if the very number of
> > such stages in Eternity between
> > sleep and awakening, illusion and
> > reality, has its beginning and its
> > end, on the other hand, the spiritual
> > pilgrim is eternal. Therefore are the
> > hours of his post-mortem life, when,
> > disembodied, he stands face to face with
> > truth and not the mirages of his transitory
> > 
> > that pilgrimage which we call "the
> > cycle of re-births"--the only reality
> > in our conception. Such intervals, their
> > limitation notwithstanding, do not prevent
> > the Ego, while ever perfecting itself,
> > from following undeviatingly, though
> > 
> > last transformation, when that Ego,
> > having reached its goal, becomes a divine
> > being. These intervals and stages help
> > towards this final result instead of hindering
> > it; and without such limited intervals
> > the divine Ego could never reach its
> > ultimate goal. I have given you once
> > already a familiar illustration by comparing
> > 
> > and its numerous and various incarnations
> > to the parts it plays. Will you call these
> > parts or their costumes the individuality
> > of the actor himself? Like that actor, the
> > Ego is forced to play during the cycle of
> > necessity, up to the very threshold of
> > 
> > unpleasant to it. But as the bee collects
> > its honey from every flower, leaving the
> > rest as food for the earthly worms, so does
> > our spiritual individuality, whether we
> > call it Sutratma* or Ego. Collecting from
> > every terrestrial personality, into which
> > Karma forces it to incarnate, the nectar
> > 
> > self-consciousness, it unites all these
> > into one whole and emerges from its chrysalis
> > as the glorified Dhyan Chohan. So much the
> > worse for those terrestrial personalities
> > from which it could collect nothing. Such
> > personalities cannot assuredly outlive consciously
> > their terrestrial existence.
> > Sutratma = one of the meanings of Sutratma
> > is the string of incarnations that the Ego
> > goes through. Think of it as a "spiritual
> > 
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