Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00518)

Mark,
What questions are banging around in your head concerning homosexuality.  You have made stated your point of view and it appears that your ideas are cemented against any homosexual behaviour. Are you suggesting, that the elementals associated with the sexual energy of homosexuals are of a lower grade of evolution?  HPB has pointed out that far worse is the act of cross breeding with a lower form on the evolutionary ladder.  Aren't you forgetting that love is at the core of passion?  It is not how one performs the sexual act but that it is performed through an act of love for the other person.

Cass

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From: Mark Jaqua <proto37@yahoo.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2006 11:51:46 PM
Subject: Theos-World Records Smashed!,  A few las points









  


    
            Records Smashed!, A few last points

  

    Carlos and rrdon's 1458 lines of repost

have been smashed. Carl one-upped Carlos 

with 1755 lines of repost yesterday.  Carlos 

came back with a devestating upper-cut 

of 1890 lines of re-post.  And then Carl 

stepped in and really showed all who was 

boss with a devastating 2079 lines of 

re-post Knock-out-punch in the theos-talk 

digest. (Marie placed a dismal 6th with 

a 1200 line-er.) Seriously, it occurred 

to me that possibly this is done all the 

time, and that Eldon or his wife has been 

clipping the excess - thousands of times!  

People ought to practice a little more 

mindfullness and consideration of others, 

and clip down their un-readable multiple 

posts themselves.  (In theos-talk digest 

one has to scan through all that stuff.)

  

    I have several more points on "A 

Queer Theosophical Question" and want to 

get them out, as they keep banging around 

in my head until I do, and then that 

will be the end of commentary from me, 

hopefully.  The pendulum is swinging the 

other way and homosexuality is not so 

"stylish" as it used to be, and maybe a 

few more ears are open.  (Actually, being 

'stylish' is exactly why, or a contributing 

factor, why some decide to "go queer.")

  

     (1) Some go queer because of Fear 

(partly justifiable. )  In this overly-competitive, 

cut-throat and over-populated world, there 

are constant financial, physical, and 

psychological dangers to fear.  If one 

is "harmless" he's less likely to get 

attacked.  The effeminant male homosexual 

to perceptions is as overtly "harmless" 

a pose as can be.  They get left alone 

and not attacked, as they are already 

wiped-out.   (2)  The sex drive being 

usually the strongest drive next to 

physical survival (unless you escape it) 

- it also has the strongest fetish, or 

diversions of its force.  The strongest 

fetish is not women's shoes or something 

such, but homosexuality.

  

    In the MLs the Teacher says that 

they will not go near people who's auras 

a suffused with all the elemental lives 

that are associated with dogmatic religion.  

The power needed is not worth it.  Chelas 

won't even shake hands to keep pure, and 

Olcott even gathered up Damodar's bedding 

while he was away so no one would touch 

it.  What other elemental forces would they 

avoid?  What about all the elementals 

associated with sodomy and other sex-acts 

in the homosexual community?  They certainly 

would avoid such things.  Who wants to 

"mix-auras" with such stuff if they 

relatively want to follow a higher life?  

Its absurd people BS themselves so much.  

We are all one in essence, but down here 

in the practical and maya-world of manifestation, 

the pure essences manifest sometimes as 

poisons to avoid.  Some things don't have 

any "higher essence" any longer, but have 

alienated it and are just elemental forces. 

"We rub shoulders with soul-less men an 

women everyday," as GdeP roughly said somewhere.

  

    Certain acts, and lifestyles, dissociate 

a person from their higher principles, 

they loose their conscience, while maybe 

at the same time maintining the necessary 

image to the public. Not all, but homosexuality 

is largely sociopathic.  The nature of 

the lifestyle causes loss of conscience.  

The higher principles can't by nature 

associate with such stuff.

  

    One knowledgeable guy I knew used 

to claim that the reason Tibet got taken 

over by the Chinese was that most the 

monasteries became homosexual, and thus 

Nature's protection was withdrawn.  I.E. 

Nature protects the pure and also the 

genuinely celibate.  I don't think this 

is the main reason Tibet got taken over, 

there being partly big racial cycles 

and the like, and other factors also 

involved, but maybe it was part of the 

reason.  This same guy said that if male

and female homosexuals get together, they

can exchange elementals and cure each 

other.  FINIS

  

              - jake j.

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