Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00459)

Rudy,   

I did not think that that one-line text of yours was aiming specifically at one or other of us at Theos-talk.  

Yet as I have the "self-observation process" going on all the time, I wanted to make an examination of that important issue -- "having little or great minds".

Now,  I want to take this one opportunity to say that as Theosophy relates to one's daily life and lower quaternary, it gets probationary.  And that is normal.  There is no other way around.  
   
If we were to discuss politics, or man-woman relationships here, I am sure debate would be heated as well.  Long standing marriages are not always easy things to manage.  If we were to discuss relationship to kids, right professional work, or "simple" things as eating well and being vegetarian, debate could get difficult too for the feelings of many. 

Personal enthusiasms or hurt feelings are all part of everyday life in the search for truth.  

The most important thing is that people are sincere and have Theosophy (seen as Universal Wisdom)  at  their hearts.  You, Jake, Ken and many others here are examples of that. 

Your site www.teosofia.com is still great.  I have seen the latest "The Aquarian Theosophist" there today. 


Regards,  Carlos. 

De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com

Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com

Cópia:

Data:Tue, 7 Nov 2006 12:12:28 -0800

Assunto:Re: Theos-World To Don on the Size of the Mind

> Dear Carlos,
> 
> My message was never intended for you. You should have realized that.
> 
> Regards, Rudy
> 
> On Nov 7, 2006, at 6:51 AM, cardosoaveline wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Dear Rudy,
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > One should be careful, for, in some cases, minds are but perceived
> > as 'little' by the 'little' aspects of other minds, which are
> > themselves 'big' in many an aspect, though narrow in some
> > instances.
> >
> > So one should be vigilant not to label persons, or minds, as great
> > or small, altruistic of selfish, wise or unwise; because human mind
> > has many different things in itself; and because there is always
> > light in the other; and because one can see the mistake in the
> > other, but it is better not to accept the illusion that this or that
> > mind is but 'little'.
> >
> > According to Theosophy, it is more accurate to say that a mind has
> > smaller and bigger aspects, or principles, in it.
> >
> > And there is an alchemical process going on all the time.
> >
> > Commentaries?
> >
> > Carlos.
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Rodolfo Don wrote:
> > >
> > > Carlos,
> > >
> > > Little minds are not known by their virtues, but by their
> > obsessions.
> > >
> > > Rodolfo
> > >
> > > On Nov 7, 2006, at 5:43 AM, carlosaveline wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mark,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > There is a ancient Pythagorean saying that goes:
> > > >
> > > > "Do that which is correct, and in time it will be nice for you
> > to
> > > > do it."
> > > >
> > > > It deals with the possibility of creating new and better habits.
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand, of course rituals work with elementals --
> > this
> > > > is part of the reason why HPB did not want to work with it.
> > Since
> > > > 18th century, if not earlier, conditions are no good for that.
> > > >
> > > > Regards, Carlos.
> > > >
> > > > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > > Cópia:
> > > >
> > > > Data:Tue, 7 Nov 2006 05:25:48 -0800 (PST)
> > > >
> > > > Assunto:[Spam] Theos-World Habit Force, New Record
> > > >
> > > > > Using Habit Force, New Record
> > > > >
> > > > > Below is a short article on Habit, as
> > > > > its got some relationship to Ritual (mostly
> > > > > on the dark side of things.) In the MLs
> > > > > somewhere is said that (dogmatic?) religions
> > > > > develop from the left-hand side of things
> > > > > or "the dark side of the force," and ritual
> > > > > and religion are hand-in-glove. I had a
> > > > > guy tell me that really there is no such
> > > > > thing as "will-power," that it is all
> > > > > really just habit. He had a point, but
> > > > > I think takes the point too far.
> > > > >
> > > > > After bitching about the unnecessary
> > > > > long multiple reposts, I see that carlos's
> > > > > response to "rrdon," Nov. 6, "Masters, HPB
> > > > > and Children" has approximately 1458 lines
> > > > > of repost on my screen. Nothing like
> > > > > tidy minds! har har
> > > > >
> > > > > I see among the little corn-towns
> > > > > in this area, of population of a couple
> > > > > hundred, as per a recent article in a local
> > > > > paper, there has been a women's "Secret
> > > > > Society" called the "Mental Progress Society,"
> > > > > for the past 80 years. Limited to 25 members,
> > > > > and no men. Nothing religious mentioned
> > > > > in the description. Maybe there are more
> > > > > underground thinkers around than one thinks.
> > > > >
> > > > > USING HABIT FORCE
> > > > > The initial reaction to mention
> > > > > of the word "habit" is usually negative.
> > > > > Actually, habit is a neutral phenomenon
> > > > > inherent in the nature of the world. The
> > > > > habit of everyday life blends imperceptibly
> > > > > into the habits of natural law and the
> > > > > movements of electrons and planets.* [*In
> > > > > an aspect Karma is also habit. - ed.] Indeed,
> > > > > if we were not surrounded with predictable
> > > > > processes, the world could not exist as we
> > > > > know it and our universe could be nothing
> > > > > other than uncreate chaos.
> > > > >
> > > > > Man is a creature of habit in
> > > > > innumerable ways, from the manner in which
> > > > > he ties his shoes to the more subtle
> > > > > psychological habits of attitude and
> > > > > interpersonal reaction. Habit is paradoxical;
> > > > > it both aids us and hinders us. In many
> > > > > ways it saves us much energy and attention,
> > > > > and can be consciously used an indefinite
> > > > > amount in this direction. Can you imagine
> > > > > learning anew each time to drive a car or
> > > > > to use a typewriter? On the other hand,
> > > > > becoming entrenched in habits and not being
> > > > > consciously aware and discriminating
> > > > > towards them can tend to put one to sleep
> > > > > and make a person mechanical and unconscious.
> > > > >
> > > >
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