Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00434)

Friends, 

Ton did not  put "The Esoteric Papers" per se in the web.   

He put  the Blavatsky Collected Writings as a whole. 

Ton is not making gossips. He has not been exaggerating differences among the theosophical groups.   He is a theosophist of good  will. He is different from Daniel. 


Regards,   Carlos. 


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Data:Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:25:58 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World The Esoteric Papers: Carlos --- Yesterday and Today

> Carlos now admits:
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> Ton is a sincere theosophist , and he deserves our admiration and 
> friendship for his efforts [for putting the CW Online including HPB's 
> Instructions?].
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> What is done, is done. The "esoteric papers" are now "exoteric" 
> because of a decision taken by A. Besant back in the 1890s.
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> The "Blavatsky Colleted Writings", that excellent work of compilation 
> by a great theosophist called Boris de Zirkoff, also include 
> the "Esoteric Papers" of the 1880s ES created by HPB.
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> Long before that, of course, they had been included in a "funny" 
> edition of "The Secret Doctrine" by Annie Besant, of course!....
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> Yes, most of what Carlos says above is what I have been saying for 
> months and months on Theos-Talk! I'm glad Carlos now admits all of 
> this. :)
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> But compare what he writes today (Tuesday) with what he only wrote 
> yesterday (Monday) to me:
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> So the reason why you have put HPB's "esoteric texts" in the internet
> for every unprepared soul to have a precocious contact with them,
> before they can understand anything is -- to show you don't pay
> atention to HPB's words and aims? Thast you do not have respect for
> her?
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> Is there any personal pleasure in publicizing that which she
> considered so reserved? Is there too much pleasure in "gossiping" in
> such an insistent way about that?
> 
> There may be something odd in such a propaganda about a past and gone
> secrecy which you so gladly and insistently disrespect yourself.
> 
> The secrecy of inner things you will never desecrate, however.
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> Please NOTE that Ton had put on the Internet more of HPB's Esoteric 
> Instructions than I had. 
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> Furthermore, in my book THE ESOTERIC PAPERS OF MADAME BLAVATSKY 
> I simply provide readers with (in some 
> cases) BETTER versions of HPB's Instructions than what will found in 
> Boris de Zirkoff's Volume 12.
> 
> Also I gave earlier and later facsimile editions of HPB's 
> Instructions for students to read and compare. And included in the 
> same volume as HPB's Esoteric Instructions, the most complete text of 
> HPB'S INNER GROUP TEACHINGS. etc. etc.
> 
> So when Carlos now admits:
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> "What is done, is done. The 'esoteric papers' are now 'exoteric' 
> because of a decision taken by A. Besant back in the 1890s."
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> That has been my point from day one and I simply wanted to provide 
> interested students with the best, the most authentic editions of 
> these esoteric papers that I could find!!!
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> Yet Carlos for reasons best known to himself wants readers to believe 
> I was showing disrespect to HPB yet he apparently says only positive 
> things about Ton and Boris.
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> Now it doesn't matter to me at all what remarks Carlos makes about 
> me. I have a tough skin and am not deterred at all in my Blavatsky 
> work by Carlos' comments which sometimes makes little sense....
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> But why this double standard and why this attempt by Carlos to 
> apparently mislead readers on the facts surrounding HPB's esoteric 
> writings?
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> Background information on some points also at:
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/moreonhpbesotericpapers.htm
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/sauceforthegoose.htm
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> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
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