Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00341)

Carl, Friends, 

Yes, we agree, Carl.    

I will add: 

When "the authentic School"  emerges, who can  know it is authentic?  And if it has perchance already happened many decades ago, who does know that it is authentic?  There are no three-dimensional or bureaucratical ways to prove that. 

The degree of authenticity of any experience or inner school can be independently assessed though,  by knowing two things, among others:  

1) Whether the experience preserves and strengthens one's autonomy while putting before oneself immense possibilities of learning and living something of the universal wisdom;   

2) Whether one is able (has the courage, etc.) to judge things according to one's own conscience, as recommended by Buddha, HPB  and the Mahatmas. 

The 'learning possibilities' are always there,  once we are ready and have open eyes. 

It is not so much a question, I guess, of "having someone with a high spiritual status around and available".  Spiritual status is a question of belief and of very secondary importance, when it is not directly harmful.. 


But once the disciple is innerly ready, the "School" is recognized by him as being there already.    The 'School' being, basically, a set of vibration patterns and a certain method of learning Theosophy or Esoteric Philosophy.   

One may find, or not, good 'physical instruments' of the real inner School -- which is not physical. 


(This has been written in very brief terms, so it depends on  some 'good will' to be understood.) 


Regards,   Carlos. 



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Data:Mon, 06 Nov 2006 05:09:25 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World Re: "the sacred pledge"

> Carlos,
> If one joins a Mystery School today, there is still very much a 
> pledge of secrecy etc., and all lay chelas and all chelas are still 
> pledged of silence and secrecy. So nothing is changed or will be 
> changed in that for a very long time.
> 
> If the Masters will send a new chela to the Theosophical Movement 
> with the purpose to open a new, real, Esoteric School, I am very 
> much sure that there will be a pledge of silence and secrecy.
> 
> Carl
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> wrote:
> >
> > That's it. 
> > 
> > Initially in the TS, and later in the ES, there has always neen a 
> personal commitment with the teachings which includes keeping them 
> private.
> > 
> > There is nothing new or extraordinary in it. It dates from ancient 
> times. It will not disappear any time soon. 
> > 
> > Carlos. 
> > 
> > 
> > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> > Cópia:
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> > Data:Sat, 04 Nov 2006 23:29:02 -0000
> > 
> > Assunto:Theos-World H.P. Blavatsky: "the sacred pledge of secrecy"
> > 
> > > I copy below from H.P. Blavatsky's 1888 "Pledge Folder", the 
> > > following part of the pledge of the E.S.T.S.:
> > > 
> > > "I pledge myself to preserve inviolable secrecy as regards . . . 
> all 
> > > confidential documents."
> > > 
> > > See the full pledge of 1888 at:
> > > 
> > > http://blavatskyarchives.com/images/espage3.jpg
> > > 
> > > And under the Rules of the section, in part 7, notice the 
> wording 
> > > about maintaining:
> > > 
> > > "The Secrecy of the documents of the Section...."
> > > 
> > > "...unless absolved from such secrecy by the Head of the 
> Section."
> > > 
> > > See complete set of rules at:
> > > 
> > > http://blavatskyarchives.com/images/espage2.jpg
> > > 
> > > Read the whole pledge folder sent by HPB to TS members who 
> wanted to 
> > > join the Esoteric Section of the Theosophical Society at:
> > > 
> > > http://blavatskyarchives.com/espageco.htm
> > > 
> > > Daniel
> > > http://hpb.cc
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