Theos-Talk Archives (November 2006 Message tt00303)

Konstantin,


Thanks again!

I am happy to see Blavatsky has more titles published in Russia than Leadbeater. 

Because theirs are the two main (and quite different) views of Theosophy nowadays;  one false, one true.


I got the wrong impression about that from viewing your lits of books published.  The list probably referred to recent editions. 

As to Roerich, your repotr  is most interesting.   

Agni Yoga makes a vulgarization of the Adept names and teachings in some points similar to other forms of Pseudo-theosophy. But at least Nicholas Roerich did not announce the second coming of Christ, he did not abuse children and did not personally visit Mars and Mercury. And above all, he did not infiltrate the movement controlling it through rituals. 

Konstantin, you wrote: 

"Crosbie and ULT are almost completely unknown. I wonder if I am the 
only ULT associate here or there are some others. ULT declaration was 
published only once ... on the back cover of "Dreams" by CWL!"


Real funny. The editor must have been 'dreaming' as he did that. 

So that means you are an ULT associate?  When did you send your Declaration? 

Geofrey Farthing died, yes.  He was a lamp within the Adyar TS. I owe him much. Of course everyone has his limitations, but Farthing did much for the movement and he helped get ULT/Pasadena/Point Loma people closer together among them and with the Blavatsky students in the Adyar TS. 

Finally,  who are the real manipulators in your view? 



Regards,   Carlos.  



 

   
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Assunto:Theos-World Re: To Ken and Konstantin

> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
> wrote:
> 
> > Therefore you see that in Russia now you have more books published
> > by Leadbeater than books by HPB, who was born there.
> 
> Carlos, it is a wrong impression. Almost all works by Blavatsky are 
> translated and published in Russian, though the quality of translation 
> is sometimes low. For example, I had to translate "Key to theosophy" 
> anew. The older version, many times reprinted, contained the word God 
> which was absent in the original, while one phrase "better a 
> philosophical atheism than ignorant worship" was omitted. 
> Nevertheless, probably only some small articles and letters remained 
> unpublished.
> While much less than a half of works by Leadbeater are published.
> In every central bookshop one can probably find some work by 
> Blavatsky, while works by Leadbeater have to be searched for.
> The overall printing of "Key to theosophy" during 2004-2005 was in 
> 21000 copies, and Transactions around 8000 copies.
> I wonder whether in America Transactions of Blavatsky Lodge were ever 
> printed in such quantities during 2 years.
> 
> > Does he think people in Russia/Ukraine would receive well,
> > or not welcome, other views of Theosophy, more in line with HPB?
> 
> The situation is the following. There are not much theosophists here 
> but much of the Roerich followers. Many of them are intolerant and 
> sectarian. They regard Leadbeater and Bailey as kind of devils, and of 
> theosopical writers only Blavatsky and Judge are regarded correct. But 
> they are adding to them Dower with "Temple Teaching" and the numerous 
> books by Roerichs which are regarded the last and best revelation (HPB 
> is regarded as old testament and Roerichs as a new testament). These 
> books included Agni Yoga series and several volumes of letters. They 
> involve belief in God, desirability of prayer, belief in Lucifer as an 
> evil being, doctrine of twin souls, etc. They also believe that Master 
> Morya in previous lives was an emperor Akbar and a russian saint 
> Sergiy.
> 
> So, in my view, they diverge from original teachings of Blavatsky much 
> more than any follower of Leadbeater or Bailey could dream.
> Many who regard themselves theosophists are under strong influence of 
> Roerichs and share admiration to them and disbelief to Leadbeater. So 
> reading his works is somewhat like being a dissident.
> 
> Crosbie and ULT are almost completely unknown. I wonder if I am the 
> only ULT associate here or there are some others. ULT declaration was 
> published only once ... on the back cover of "Dreams" by CWL!
> 
> > I have a strong admiration for Farthing
> 
> I think that at least some of his works are not very deep insighted. 
> Once I tried to write to him with my arguments regarding his article 
> about etheric double but to my disappointment I discovered that he 
> recently died.
> 
> > I believe any people who wants to understand the Adyar movement 
> should
> > get a copy of the well-documented book "The Elder Brother", a CWL's 
> biography
> 
> I think it will not work. I am sure that CWL is an easy false target, 
> a lighning rod to deflect the blow from the real manipulators behind 
> the scene. In Russia he was almost discredited during the 1990's but 
> it didn't help at all.
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