Tillett's List on ULT
Nov 03, 2006 08:02 AM
by carlosaveline
Daniel,
I have to confess I suspect some of your "unamed sources" below are as imaginary as your "friends" David Green, Terry Brown and so on.
As to the existence of 'inner circles', I have written in other messages. They have existed for long eras, and they have been defended in the New Testament, in the Confucian Analects, and so forth.
Regards, Carlos.
De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Cópia:
Data:Thu, 02 Nov 2006 16:51:36 -0000
Assunto:Theos-World Question (3) from Tillett's List on ULT/DES
> Gregory Tillett writes:
>
> "(3) does a DES, associated with the ULT or some or any of its
> members, exist? Does it claim to be a successor of or to possess any
> continuity with or authority from HPB's ES? If so, on the basis of
> what authority does it make this claim?"
>
> Does a Dzyan Esoteric School exist?
>
> Years ago when first doing inquiries about this, many ULT associates
> I asked said: "NO."
>
> Not all; a few actually admitted that there was such an organization.
>
> One well-known, high profile ULT Theosophist swears to this day on
> the Bhagavad-Gita that there is no such organization!
>
> But when several demanded proof of my assertion that there actually
> was such an organization and I showed them some of the DES documents,
> well, they were for the most part strangely silent.
>
> One turned almost red and said "but I have been an associate for many
> years and no one ever told me."
>
> One Judge student who had been a ULT associate said he was given
> hints about such a school by an ULT official but never told flatout
> that there is such a school.
>
> This raises the question as to why HPB published in LUCIFER that
> there was such a Esoteric Section and even writes about it in THE KEY
> TO THEOSOPHY but for some reason(s) ULT/DES "officials" feel the need
> to, in effect, HIDE the school and make it a SECRET.
>
> I'm wondering if maybe some of the remarks in the KH 1900 letter are
> relevant to the Dzyan Esoteric School.
>
> For example:
>
> ==========================================================
> The best corrective of error is an honest and open-minded examination
> of all facts subjective and objective.
>
> MISLEADING SECRECY HAS GIVEN THE DEATH BLOW TO NUMEROUS
> ORGANIZATIONS.
> ===========================================================
>
> Quoted from:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/36138
>
> But it is interesting that on Theos-Talk Carlos although he doesn't
> write about the DES, he does NOT deny the existence of the DES.
>
> And Carl (not to be confused with Carlos!) has confirmed the
> existence of the DES and says that he knows some of the participants,
> etc.
>
> I know of several caches of Crosbie papers and letters. Even ------ -
> ------ [a fairly well known ULT Theosophist] has told me of primary
> source letters that would throw a light on why Crosbie left Pt. Loma.
> I'm sure in future years some of this material will be published and
> therefore available in the public domain and probably on the Internet.
>
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> E-mail classificado pelo Identificador de Spam Inteligente Terra.
> Para alterar a categoria classificada, visite
> http://mail.terra.com.br/protected_email/imail/imail.cgi?+_u=carlosaveline&_l=1,1162486760.942976.26349.tulear.hst.terra.com.br,5921,Des15,Des15
>
> Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra.
> Scan engine: McAfee VirusScan / Atualizado em 01/11/2006 / Versão: 4.4.00/4886
> Proteja o seu e-mail Terra: http://mail.terra.com.br/
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Back to Top]
Theosophy World:
Dedicated to the Theosophical Philosophy and its Practical Application