Re: ULT in The attic
Oct 31, 2006 04:26 PM
by ek_carl
As far as I know every ULT-lodge has a Secretary as head, who gather
around himself/herself a group (a working group) of the most active
members. These groups are self recruiting. The decisions are made in
this group. Within the ULT, the lodges do not "own" anything,
officially at lest. Everything, as publishing companies, libraries,
archives, money, estates etc is controlled by a private foundation
(as the Theosophy Company) which has its own officers, but most
often the same persons as in the groups above mentioned.
Way do they not tell in public how those "Lodge Secretaries" and
working group member are? They (the ULT) say that they don't want
anyone to stand in the way of Theosophy. That means that if one of
the ULT-officers "flips out", ULT as an organisation not will have
to suffer in any way, coursed by this, hence nobody, outside the
organisation (the ULT), knows (or should not know) which is an
officer.
Carl
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, gregory@... wrote:
>
> Carlos appears to have a problem with the idea of archival
material being
> stored in an attic – and for more than five years! Contributions
to buying
> a mansion with sufficient space to keep all my Theosophical
material in a
> readily accessible manner will be gratefully received! At present,
I only
> keep material relevant to current research in an accessible
location – and
> I have no particular research interest in Crosbie, the ULT, etc.
> The comment of mine quoted by Daniel is genuine. When I was
undertaking
> research on Leadbeater in California I met with a number of people
who had
> been at Point Loma when Crosbie departed. For some reason,
the "real
> reasons" for his departure seem to have been regarded as a deep
secret,
> but I was eventually told his departure related to his claims of
contact
> with HPB and the Masters. Obviously I have no way of knowing
whether this
> was true, but it would explain an otherwise unexplained action.
Certainly
> the DES material I have, or have seen, implies an authority for
the DES
> which is not based on any historical succession. No doubt all
could be
> explained if the ULT's archives were accessible.
> My limited contact with the ULT has been entirely pleasant. My
criticism
> of ULT relates to the manifestly bogus claim that it is somehow an
> organization without authorities or leaders, and its strange habit
of not
> identifying the authors (other than HPB, WQJ, et al) of its
publications.
> For example, neither the ULT as such nor all its Assoiates
wrote "The
> Thosophical Movement"! The book had an author or authors – so why
aren't
> they identified? This, by the way, is a technique also adopted by
the
> Jehovah's Witnesses. There are obviously leaders and authorities
in the
> ULT – it's just that (unlike Adyar or Pasadena) their identities
are not
> disclosed. When I sought to do research at the ULT library in
London,
> "permission" had to be obtained. From whom? If I want to access
the ULT
> archives (which presumably exist somewhere and under the control of
> someone), to whom do I apply? If I write to the ULT someone will
reply,
> although the letter may be "signed" with "The United Lodge of
> Theosophists". Someone decides who may and may not speak at ULT
meetings.
> Someone legally owns ULT assets and edits its journals. How and by
whom
> are those actually in charge appointed?
> As I previously wrote to Daniel, unknown and unknowable sources of
> authority exercise greater power because they are effectively
> unchallengeable.
>
> Dr Gregory Tillett
>
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