Theos-Talk Archives (October 2006 Message tt00508)

Friends,

Below, I wrongly mention a "41 years period between 1895-1934".  Sorry -- I should  have written "a 39 years period between 1895 and 1934". 

Regards,  Carlos. 


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Data:Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:05:12 -0300

Assunto:Theos-World ARE LEADBEATER & BESANT DEAD?

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> C. W. Leadbeater's and A. Besant's policies and visions about the Theosophical Movement, Adyar, are entirely alive and running.
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> The practical results of their mistakes, 'clairvoyant' fancies, messianic & ritualistic proposals, as their denial of H.P.B., inform the living structure of the Adyar TS and also influence the movement as a whole, more than many a student suspects. 
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> Understanding the mistakes of the 41 years Leadbeatear/Besant period (1895-1934), and reading their practical lessons, is still an unavoidable historical task. It refers to a part of the movement which gathers some 90% of people who call themselves theosophists in the world today.
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> CWL and A. Besant are biologically dead since 1933-1934. Yet the influence of their blind-belief ritualism is still the biggest stumbling block for the movement as a whole. 
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> For some time, it was thought by many in Adyar that the 'next historical step' would be be 'Krishnamurtian'. There is a trend of thought within Adyar TS which still thinks that way. That trend definitely includes Ms. Radha Burnier, the international president since 1980 (26 years already). 
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> From the viewpoint of some H. P. B. students, however, 'Krishnamurtian' viewspoints can't offer a real alternative since he did not even accept fact like Karma Law or Reincarnation, and his proposal included abandoning the theosophhical movement as something "post Messiah", merely bureaucratic and therefore unnecessary. I doubt if he ever read HPB or the Mahatma Letters. He certainly did not understand them. 
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> Regards, Carlos. 
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> Data:Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:00:03 EST
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> Assunto:Re: Theos-World Jake on "Crosbie"
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> > In a message dated 10/31/2006 9:52:16 AM Central Standard Time, 
> > danielhcaldwell@yahoo.com writes:
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> > I believe the "ignore" response is how most Adyar TS students have
> > dealt with Gregory Tillett's findings about Leadbeater in his book
> > THE ELDER BROTHER.
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> > Considering that Leadbeater and everyone else involved is dead the issue of 
> > Leadbeater's behavior is academic so it can be ignored. What matters is the 
> > substance of his writings and those can be pretty much ignored as well, 
> > except as a source of entertainment. There a few gems in the garbage, but you 
> > have to dig pretty deep to find them and that is the criticism of Leadbeater 
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> > If Leadbeater were alive, then things would be much different.
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