Theos-Talk Archives (October 2006 Message tt00492)

Daniel,

You quote Tillett and 'several sources'. Really amusing: 

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Notice what Dr. Tilett wrote and confirmed: 

"...I was certainly told by several sources that Crosbie 
claimed to have left Pt Loma because he asserted he
was in contact with HPB and the Masters, and that
he continued to make this claim thereafter. I can
cite not source for the story, given that my notebooks
are now archived in the attic. I recall talking about
this with John...."

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Than I guess the sources are still  "in the attic of Tillett" ever since. 

Scientific quotation, eh??  I suggest you might visit Tillett's attic to solve the problem.

"Historians say" --  who is supposed to believe such a fanciful claim?

Who is it that heard that from Crosbie,  before 1919?  Did G. Tillett hear that from Crosbie?   Or then what is the source? 

For 'sholarly' specialists  in innuendos, there is a blending of fact & fancy... That does not include Tillet as long as I know -- so far I did not see him making slanders. 


Now --it is obvious that Crosbie had understood the idea of HPB and Judge. 

There was no need to "talk to them" after 1895 for him to understand their idea, which was also his, even before 1895. 


Finally, the tree must be evaluated by its fruit. 



Regards,  Carlos. 











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Assunto:Theos-World Carlos on "Daniel's Claims About Carrithers"

> Carlos, you write:
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> Did Carrithers "channel" Robert Crosbie or did he drink something 
> before having such a terrible insight?
> 
> Or -- did Daniel "channel" Carrithers? This sounds more likely.
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> 
> No channeling whatsoever. 
> 
> Just good historical research by Walter Carrithers. 
> 
> Mr. Carrithers did excellent research on the Hodgson-Coulomb 
> material and he also did similar research on later claims like 
> Leadbeater, Crosbie, etc. He was not a member of any of the existing 
> Theosophical groups and was a totally independent student. He 
> questioned the claims of all the existing Theosophical groups. 
> 
> Some of his findings in this regards will be published in the future.
> 
> As regards Mr. Crosbie's claims, we have three historians
> who have come to similar findings:
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> Walter A. Carrithers, Jr., John Cooper and Gregory Tillett.
> 
> Notice what Dr. Tilett wrote and confirmed:
> 
> "...I was certainly told by several sources that Crosbie
> claimed to have left Pt Loma because he asserted he
> was in contact with HPB and the Masters, and that
> he continued to make this claim thereafter. I can
> cite not source for the story, given that my notebooks
> are now archived in the attic. I recall talking about
> this with John...."
> 
> Quoted from:
> http://theosophy.com/theos-talk/200108/tt00039.html
> 
> It would appear that this information was gleaned as Dr.
> Tillett researched Crosbie's Dzyan Esoteric School. 
> 
> See Dr. Tillett's brief summary of findings about Crosbie's DES at:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/1901
> 
> SIMILARLY Dr. Tillett also gleaned important information about 
> Leadbeater and his claims through many sources. Some of which was 
> published in THE ELDER BROTHER. This is how historical research 
> progresses and Dr. Tillett has discovered even more important 
> information about Leadbeater and the Liberal Catholic Church. And I 
> hope these further findings will be published in the future.
> 
> But go ahead Carlos and ignore the information about Crosbie as Anand 
> Gholap ignores the information about Leadbeater.
> 
> Remember the motto: Don't confuse me with facts.
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
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