Theos-Talk Archives (October 2006 Message tt00439)

Adelasie,


It would be arrogant, or simply unintelligent,  to ignore the example given by HPB of using both brain hemispheres and combining 'viveka', discernment, with devotion and higher intuition. 

Her pedagogy is not limited to "high initiates".  It is public. It is for the public. It is available to each and all of us. 

The Catholic priests (Liberal or otherwise) also say that the universal brotherhood and other teachings are "impossible to live" -- hence they use rituals and other top-down structures to control the masses.

Take care and make sure you do not say that "living Theosophy" or "using both discernment and intuitiion" is but for high initiates --  for thus starts hypocrisy which leads to priesthood.  

There is a false humbleness in saying --  "we are not high initiates, we cannot compare ourselves with HPB;  therefore we do not need to live Theosophy". 


If you can't live Theosophy and can't combine diversity and unity, what's the use of Theosophy for you?  It is a facade for something else? Is it a facade for some rite or  ritual in a " stone Temple"? 

HPB wrote the only real temple is within one's heart and mind, and outer temples are but a lack of respect for the SACRED.  As she wrote that, she was quoting the New Testament. 


Regards,  Carlos. 


 
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Data:Sat, 28 Oct 2006 16:55:33 -0700

Assunto:Re: Theos-World Apologies to Adelasie

> Carlos,
> 
> No need to apologize to me. You are entitled to your opinion in this 
> and all matters, as are we all. 
> 
> It would seem a bit arrogant to me to compare onesself to HPB. She 
> did what the Masters told her to do. She was a high adept with a very 
> special and thankless job. She functioned from a position of 
> selflessness and altruism that is quite incomprehensible to most of 
> us students. Her task was herculean and none of us is of her level of 
> development. She did not attack her fellow seekers, even when they 
> attacked her. We can learn a lot from her exemplary life, but we need 
> not start thinking that we are her. We have a long way to go before 
> we will be entrusted with a task such as hers.
> 
> She said, "In the last analysis, occultism is altruism, pure and 
> simple." Altruism can be stated as the Golden Rule of Christianity, 
> "Do unto others as you would they do unto you." This is a good test 
> for any planned action or speech. Is what we are about to say or do 
> or even think what we would like others to say or do or think to or 
> about us? Simple. No need for right or left brain analysis. Just an 
> honest human response. We could spend many lifetimes practicing this 
> one simple thing and still not reach the level of development of HPB.
> 
> Adelasie 
> 
> On 28 Oct 2006 at 18:50, carlosaveline wrote:
> 
> > Adelasie, 
> > 
> > First of all, let me tell you something you may have perceived already.
> > 
> > I may think differently from you in many ways, but I respect your sincere devotion for the divine world, whatever you call it.
> > 
> > Secondly, as your specific posting below, I would like to say:
> > 
> > 
> > We have two brain hemispheres. One of them is logic, critical, the other mystical, intuitive.
> > 
> > We need both of them in the spiritual path. 
> > 
> > We need "viveka", discernment -- the ability to tell truth from lie, reality from illusion. 
> > 
> > Perhaps your view of the spiritual path is leaving aside half of your neocortex. The left half. There is no need for that. 
> > 
> > Why did HPB criticize conventional religions and many other forms of collective illusion?
> > 
> > Because she used both halves of her brain -- and she invites us to do the same. 
> > 
> > But -- if the hearts are not taken away by separativeness, duality of ideas will not produce hatred, and I, speaking for me, am completely out of hatred!!! 
> > 
> > There is a greater harmony within whose wide circle duality can be exerted.
> > 
> > My apologies and heartful greetings, Carlos. 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > Cópia:
> > 
> > Data:Sat, 28 Oct 2006 14:34:30 -0700
> > 
> > Assunto:Re: Theos-World Re:Comments for Carlos
> > 
> > > Generally in occultism it is better to concentrate the attention on 
> > > what unifies, what is similar, what is complementary, than to 
> > > concentrate the attention on what separates, what is different, what 
> > > contradicts. Ultimately everything is true, all coming from the same 
> > > Absolute Truth. One way leads to understanding and greater 
> > > consciousness, the other to oblivion. 
> > > 
> > > Adelasie
> > > 
> > 
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