Re: Theos-World THE LIGHT WITHIN
Oct 25, 2006 07:45 PM
by Cass Silva
Are you for real Carlos???
Cass
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From: carlosaveline <carlosaveline@terra.com.br>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:22:36 PM
Subject: Theos-World THE LIGHT WITHIN
Mark,
You say:
"Everyone has within them the wisdom and light of the mahatma, and the
darkness and selfishness of the dugpa."
Who said that, Mark? Who said that except poor misoriented Daniel Caldwell?
Whence comes this lack of decision between good and evil? From some unfortunate variety of Libra influence?
Why not allow yourself some self-esteem?
I can see you are not familiar with HPB's literature -- or else you are thinking that some very dramatic things she wrote about discipleship in those burning final decades of the 19th century apply to NON-DISCIPLES AND EVERYWHERE, EVERY TIME...
No need to believe selfish magicians are everywhere; and much less "within everyone".
This is but an unfortunate fancy created by Daniel Caldwell for his own 'reasons' -- rather psychological reasons. I hope he gets some help as to that.
Regards, Carlos.
De:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Para:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Cópia:
Data:Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:20:44 -0400
Assunto:Re: Theos-World DANIEL'S RIGHT THOUGHT
> Everyone has within them the wisdom and light of the mahatma, and the
> darkness and selfishness of the dugpa. Just as we need both eyes to tell
> distance, we need to see both the light and dark poles to tell where our
> actions lie on a karmic scale.
>
> -Mark H.
>
> carlosaveline wrote:
> >
> > Daniel,
> >
> > I am glad to know you that do not get irritated to see that we may
> > think of our higher selves, instead of visualizing "selfish magicians
> > within".
> >
> > Why not concentrate on the search for wisdom and discipleship, then?
> >
> > Think about that.
> >
> > Right thought is important, according to the noble eightfold path,
> > isn't it?
> >
> > Carlos.
> >
> > De:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> >
> > Para:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> >
> > Cópia:
> >
> > Data:Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:45:09 -0000
> >
> > Assunto:Theos- World Carlos' "strange" statements?? ??
> >
> > > Carlos, you wrote:
> > >
> > > > Again an out-of-context sentence.
> > > >
> > > > Instead, I have always heard and read that we have ... a Monad, a
> > > higher self, and a divine self within. And an Antahkarana.
> > > >
> > > > I hope that does not irritate Daniel too much.
> > > >
> > > > See "The Light in the Path". The light within, and so on.
> > >
> > > Carlos, why would the teaching about "a Monad, a higher self, and a
> > > divine self within" etc. irritate me at all??? Or too much???
> > >
> > > OBTW I wasn't taking anything out of context. Only bringing forth
> > > the comment apparently written by Mr. Judge which reads:
> > >
> > > "It has been well said by H.P. Blavatsky that 'each one has a
> > > potential black magician within.'.... "
> > >
> > > And asking that interested readers might consider this quote in
> > > COMPARISON with what Julia Ver Planck quotes from a Master's letter:
> > >
> > > "What is our present Duty? Hear the words of the Master. 'Judge
> > > the action, not the person. You never know the true motives. Never
> > > judge human nature on its lowest level. Every one has a potential
> > > Dugpa in him.' "
> > >
> > > Julia adds a footnote to this quote:
> > >
> > > "Dugpa, black magician; one devoted wholly to self. This [quotation
> > > above] and other quotations [later in this same article] are from
> > > the private letters of the Adept."
> > >
> > > And then I was giving Jake's previous assessment of the Master's
> > > quote.
> > >
> > > Jake's assessment was:
> > >
> > > "Pure dugpa BS!..."
> > >
> > > "The pseudo-teacher says that 'each of us has a dugpa inside
> > > of us.'"
> > >
> > > But see all the relevant material at:
> > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/theos- talk/message/ 36478
> >
> > > and
> > > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/theos- talk/message/ 36511
> >
> > >
> > > BOTTOMLINE: I was just wondering if Jake ALSO considered the quote
> > > attributed to H.P. Blavatsky as "pure dugpa BS".
> > >
> > > Again, Carlos, you comment:
> > >
> > > > What is the psychological need, then, to visualize "black
> > > magicians" within???
> > > >
> > > > Is it a sympton perhaps?
> > >
> > > Good grief, Carlos! Are you suggesting that someone is recommending
> > > anyone to visualize "black magicians" within????
> > >
> > > These are simply quotes from THE PATH in 1889. And I think students
> > > have a right to discuss them and try to assess such statements as
> > > those made by Jake.
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > > http://hpb.cc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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