Theos-Talk Archives (October 2006 Message tt00372)

Dear all;
I think he is right
all we have to do with the seed of the LIght and the seed of the 
darkness,selfishness.
The Light is the Solar MIND or Higher mind
The darkness the Lunar the Lower mind, which we need to overflow to 
come to the higher level of the higher mind.
Always in the spiral of evolution growing up we take some elements 
of a lower with us.

Greetings Christina












-- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "carlosaveline" 
<carlosaveline@...> wrote:
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> Mark,
> 
> You say: 
> 
> "Everyone has within them the wisdom and light of the mahatma, and 
the 
> darkness and selfishness of the dugpa." 
> 
> Who said that, Mark?  Who said that except poor misoriented Daniel 
Caldwell?  
> 
> Whence comes this lack of decision between good and evil?  From 
some  unfortunate variety of Libra influence? 
> 
> Why not allow yourself some self-esteem? 
> 
> I  can see you are not familiar with HPB's literature --  or else 
you are thinking that some very dramatic things she wrote about 
discipleship in those burning final decades of the 19th century 
apply to NON-DISCIPLES AND EVERYWHERE, EVERY TIME... 
> 
> No need to believe selfish magicians are everywhere;  and much 
less "within everyone".
> 
> This is but an unfortunate fancy created by Daniel Caldwell for 
his own 'reasons' -- rather psychological reasons.  I hope he gets 
some help as to that.   
> 
> 
> Regards,  Carlos. 
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> De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
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> Cópia:
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> Data:Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:20:44 -0400
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> Assunto:Re: Theos-World DANIEL'S RIGHT THOUGHT
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> > Everyone has within them the wisdom and light of the mahatma, 
and the 
> > darkness and selfishness of the dugpa. Just as we need both eyes 
to tell 
> > distance, we need to see both the light and dark poles to tell 
where our 
> > actions lie on a karmic scale.
> > 
> > -Mark H.
> > 
> > carlosaveline wrote:
> > >
> > > Daniel,
> > >
> > > I am glad to know you that do not get irritated to see that we 
may 
> > > think of our higher selves, instead of visualizing "selfish 
magicians 
> > > within".
> > >
> > > Why not concentrate on the search for wisdom and discipleship, 
then?
> > >
> > > Think about that.
> > >
> > > Right thought is important, according to the noble eightfold 
path, 
> > > isn't it?
> > >
> > > Carlos.
> > >
> > > De:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
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> > > Para:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
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> > > Cópia:
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> > > Data:Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:45:09 -0000
> > >
> > > Assunto:Theos-World Carlos' "strange" statements????
> > >
> > > > Carlos, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Again an out-of-context sentence.
> > > > >
> > > > > Instead, I have always heard and read that we have ... a 
Monad, a
> > > > higher self, and a divine self within. And an Antahkarana.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope that does not irritate Daniel too much.
> > > > >
> > > > > See "The Light in the Path". The light within, and so on.
> > > >
> > > > Carlos, why would the teaching about "a Monad, a higher 
self, and a
> > > > divine self within" etc. irritate me at all??? Or too much???
> > > >
> > > > OBTW I wasn't taking anything out of context. Only bringing 
forth
> > > > the comment apparently written by Mr. Judge which reads:
> > > >
> > > > "It has been well said by H.P. Blavatsky that 'each one has a
> > > > potential black magician within.'...."
> > > >
> > > > And asking that interested readers might consider this quote 
in
> > > > COMPARISON with what Julia Ver Planck quotes from a Master's 
letter:
> > > >
> > > > "What is our present Duty? Hear the words of the 
Master. 'Judge
> > > > the action, not the person. You never know the true motives. 
Never
> > > > judge human nature on its lowest level. Every one has a 
potential
> > > > Dugpa in him.' "
> > > >
> > > > Julia adds a footnote to this quote:
> > > >
> > > > "Dugpa, black magician; one devoted wholly to self. This 
[quotation
> > > > above] and other quotations [later in this same article] are 
from
> > > > the private letters of the Adept."
> > > >
> > > > And then I was giving Jake's previous assessment of the 
Master's
> > > > quote.
> > > >
> > > > Jake's assessment was:
> > > >
> > > > "Pure dugpa BS!..."
> > > >
> > > > "The pseudo-teacher says that 'each of us has a dugpa inside
> > > > of us.'"
> > > >
> > > > But see all the relevant material at:
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/36478 
> > > 
> > > > and
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/36511 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > BOTTOMLINE: I was just wondering if Jake ALSO considered the 
quote
> > > > attributed to H.P. Blavatsky as "pure dugpa BS".
> > > >
> > > > Again, Carlos, you comment:
> > > >
> > > > > What is the psychological need, then, to visualize "black
> > > > magicians" within???
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it a sympton perhaps?
> > > >
> > > > Good grief, Carlos! Are you suggesting that someone is 
recommending
> > > > anyone to visualize "black magicians" within????
> > > >
> > > > These are simply quotes from THE PATH in 1889. And I think 
students
> > > > have a right to discuss them and try to assess such 
statements as
> > > > those made by Jake.
> > > >
> > > > Daniel
> > > > http://hpb.cc
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> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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