Theos-Talk Archives (October 2006 Message tt00181)

Dear Daniel,

Again, you are reading some paragraphs, rather out of context, and ignoring the whole picture and whole books. 

The perception is not, and cannot be, limited to words. 

But I will bring you other words by Crosbie which will give you a broader picture of this.  As soon as I come back next week. 

(I hope you are not trying to sow dissent among the ULT, Pasadena TS and other theosophical groups and theosophists.  I am confident that this is not your goal.  And I also hope you are not thus trying to bury the investigation here about  the E.R., by bringing again  this old and recurrent thesis of yours with regard to the ULT in the hope of taking the conversation elsewhere.) 

Take a look, for instance, at the ULT Declaration of 1909.

That document is essential for anyone who wants to honestly understand the ULT.

The ULT is no "smaller version" of a  Vatican, as the Adyar TS sometimes seems to be. 

More next week. 


Regards,  Carlos Cardoso Aveline













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Data:Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:49:49 -0000

Assunto:Theos-World ULT/DES versus the Various Theosophical Societies/Esoteric Sections?????

> ULT/DES versus the Various 
> Theosophical Societies/Esoteric Sections?????
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> Carlos wrote:
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> The ULT (United Lodge of Theosophists) does not suppose it is "the 
> only channel", etc.
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> But compare and contrast what Carlos says above with the following 
> three quotes from Robert Crosbie, founder of the ULT and the secret 
> Dzyan Esoteric School. He wrote these words in 1915:
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> "Today, after a quarter of a century, there are no less than three 
> widely heralded ---and a half dozen lesser known---'outer heads,' 
> [Katherine Tingley, Annie Besant and Ernest Hargrove, 
> etc. ??] 'esoteric sections,' 'visible agents,' and what-not, all 
> issuing 'orders,' 'instructions,' and 'teachings,' professedly 
> emanating from the Masters of H.P.B. and from H.P.B. herself. . ."
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> ". . . The VARIOUS THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETIES and esoteric sections of 
> the day are IN NO SENSE REPRESENTATIVE OF the School of the Masters 
> or THE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT. . . The Anciently universal Wisdom- 
> Religion, the School of the Masters and the Theosophical Movement 
> are in unbroken continuity of existence to-day as always. . . .Now, 
> as always, they have THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND AGENTS among men, who 
> cannot be found out by any but those who have earned the right to 
> know them. . . ." caps added.
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> "If, then, the TRUE THEOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT, and the true Chelas of 
> the School of the Masters are NOT to be found among those [persons 
> such as Katherine Tingley, Annie Besant, Charles Leadbeater, Ernest 
> Hargrove, etc. ??]who have lost the point of contact with the 
> Masters, while yet loudly proclaiming themselves Initiates and Outer 
> and Inner Heads of this, that, and the other theosophical society 
> and esoteric section, WHERE MAY THEY BE DISCERNED? . . ." caps added
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> See other relevant quotes at:
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/crosbierobertdes.htm#critical
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> In these extracts, Crosbie does NOT paint a very pretty picture of 
> the various Theosophical Societies, their Leaders, their Esoteric 
> Schools, etc. and says that the true Theosophical Movement and the 
> true Chelas, representatives and agents of the Masters [the TRUE 
> CHANNELS???] must be sought for somewhere else.... WHERE??
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> This Crosbie writes 6 years after founding the secret Dzyan 
> Esoteric School.....
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